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Old February 2, 2019, 11:26 PM
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Note: apologies for the prose rather than just a list. It's cold out and this might be good read for someone all snugged indoors.

A few days ago I had a sudden urge to upgrade my current desktop rig. Originally it started with the idea of upgrading only the CPU which of course would knowingly mean new compatible ram and motherboard. After some conversations with friends I decided I'd go with the Core i9 9900K processor since, according to one colleague, this is "the chip that could last ten years because Intel has a long way to go to meaningfully & substantially improve their current tech". Up to now I normally expect my builds to have a 5 year life cycle including minor intermittent upgrades.

What am I moving from? Core i7 2600K, ASUS P-series mobo, G.Skill 32GB DDR3 ram. Yep, pretty old but actually still capable hardware. Desktop is used 70% media creation (CAD/CGI) and 30% gaming. Over the years I dabbled in overclocking but the last couple of years couldn't be bothered. With the new tech I just may visit those waters again.

So with the 9900K in mind (and ordered) I set on procuring the mobo and ram. I ended up buying the Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master based on reviews and number of USB slots. I've always gone ASUS so this will be a new venture for sure. I did consider the ASUS Maximus XI Hero or Code but they both lacked the number of USB ports I needed plus both had hit & miss user reviews. I took out a 4 year store warranty on the Gigabyte so let's see what happens. The board itself, upon first impressions, is gorgeous, hefty, and seems to be very well-built.

For ram, it has remained fairly expensive for the last couple of years. I kept it simple for now and bought 64gb of Kingston HyperX Fury 2666 with white heat shields. Kept the clock per CPU rather than going 3200 or something since OC'ing isn't too critical at this time. If memory prices ever decrease again I may scoop some faster modules up then.

Okay, so that was the initial upgrade plan. Then I had an epiphany the other day: "Why stop here? Why not build an entirely new system and keep the current 2600K in the loop? It would be a shame to abandon it. I can dedicate the 2600K with a GTX1070 to VR (HTC Vive) duty in another room. So let's build all new!"

So in addition to the above mentioned three core components, I have also bought:

Corsair H115i Pro Platinum CPU cooler (have a Kraken X42 on the 2600K which I was going to re-use but really hate the NZXT CAM software)
Samsung EVO 960 Pro M.2 NVME 512GB (will install W10 OS + key apps)
Samsung 860 Pro 1TB SSD (secondary app + a game or two)
EVGA Supernova 850W P2 psu (current G2 version has been great in other system)
Fractal Design Define R6 White (2600K sits in the R5 which is a terrific case but looking forward to tempered glass and WHITE! Also I still rely on at least one ODD)

I think I will put the ASUS Strix 1070 into this new build (and a 980 I have lying around back into the "old") until I decide on new vid card, a used 1070ti/1080ti? New RTX 2070? 2080? I don't know yet but likely will come down to budget in the next month or so.

Thoughts on the GPU welcome.

So after all is built, and all goes well, will this be THE machine to last a decade? Hard to believe we're talking potentially Year 2030. Looking forward to the outcome.

Well, if you made it this far, thanks for reading! Stay warm.
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what happened to your old build? up for sale?
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what happened to your old build? up for sale?
5th (6th) paragraph : going to serve as a VR machine. Thought about selling but too much of a hassle unless local.
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Welcome to the 9900K and 5 Ghz Club :)

Last 10 yrs.....good luck with that....I just upgraded a 4.5 yr old machine and even that one went thru a GPU refresh after 2 yrs...it was an HEDT build in 2014.


Going that far with your build throw an RTX 2080Ti in there....but that choice depends upon screen res your planning to game on.....assuming either 4K or 1440p....
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The core components could definetly last 10 years. Ram/storage would likely need some tweaks along the way, and graphics card will definetly need upgrading before 10 years, but it will be a build that could last.

For the GPU, used 10xx can offer great back for buck if you find the right one. If you are happy spending the extra, the jump to the rtx cards, but you definetly pay for the extra FPS.
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Last 10 yrs.....good luck with that....I just upgraded a 4.5 yr old machine and even that one went thru a GPU refresh after 2 yrs...it was an HEDT build in 2014.

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The core components could definetly last 10 years. Ram/storage would likely need some tweaks along the way, and graphics card will definetly need upgrading before 10 years, but it will be a build that could last.

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Yes, piecemeal upgrades will be acceptable if this system goes the distance. No 4K gaming yet. I use an ultra wide monitor which the current 1070 handles no problem.

PSU arrives today and I'm driving out in -21C to pick up the Fractal case this a.m.

CPU arrives Thursday so I think next weekend becomes Build Day.
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10 years? Well like Bond007 says core components sure. Will it be long in the tooth by then hell yea, but I'm sure it would be usable. Video card wise, tough choice right now if you ask me. I would not really want to be buy the new rtx cards as I just don't think they are worth the cost. So I would recommend trying to find a used 1070/80/ti something that isn't to much but that will pass you buy till the next generation after the 2000 series. I get the feeling that is when we will start to see the real benefits of the ray tracing cards.
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10 yrs ago.....I7 920 w Evga X58 vanilla board.....Triple Channel Memory (I think I was running 3 * 2G inititially and went to 3 *4G).....my first SSD ?....Intel 80G for boot.


Eventually changed out for an Evga X58 Classified and 980X ....


I think Iwas running Evga GTX 280 SLi then

- 1 GB of VRAM
- 670 Mhz Core Clock
- Bandwidth 155.5 GB / Sec


...a LOT of GPU refreshes in 10 yrs ...... 480...580...680...780...1080...



....seems like eons ago....that I7 920....
...imagine the CPU bottleneck trying to run a 920 with 1080Ti or RTX Card....no M.2....10 yrs is stretch in the Computing World...
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For the GPU, used 10xx can offer great back for buck if you find the right one. If you are happy spending the extra, the jump to the rtx cards, but you definetly pay for the extra FPS.
I have procured a (slightly) used 1080Ti Hybrid for a fairly decent price. Was going to get the RTX 2070 but figured I'd wait for more 'mature' cards when the growing pains get resolved.
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....seems like eons ago....that I7 920....
...imagine the CPU bottleneck trying to run a 920 with 1080Ti or RTX Card....no M.2....10 yrs is stretch in the Computing World...
Not just that, but USB2.0 only and Lucky if it had SATA3.0!


That is going to be a very nice rig, and should definitely last you 5 yrs, but if the trend that started with Ryzen and is continuing with Intel now continues, then "only" 8 cores is going to be a thing of the past pretty soon!

On GPU I have been very happy with my RTX 2070, which I managed to snag for about $650CAD which I consider worth while at this point in time. It's a big price hike to go 2080 and not that large of an improvement (for 1440p gaming).
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