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Old December 27, 2017, 06:21 AM
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Default Adapting PC build (2013) to 4K setup

Hello lads,

The past months I have been struggeling the for deciding whether I am going to upgrade my computer or not. To start with, I noted my PC specs below:
MB: B85 MSI SOCKET 1150
GPU: AMD R9 290
CPU: Intel Core i5 4690 (Cooling = Gelid Tranquillo Rev.3)
RAM: 8GB @1600MHz
PSU: 550W
Storage: 256GB SSD + 3TB HDD

My question is, is this CPU too slow in combination with any GPU equal or better than GTX 1080? And what is 'the best upgrade' option to convert to 4K gaming? I consider 4K gaming as being able to game at least 50FPS@4K on 2 screens in duplication mode (not to be mistaken with extend mode, this would require even more rendering power). With 'too slow', I mean that the GPU performance is drawn back so much, that this would become noticable in this 4K gaming.

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I already have a 4K television with ofc my (HD) PC monitor additional. Now, what I want is to stream from my PC to both my new 4K monitor and 4K TV. However, the GPU has HDMI 1.4 as standard which now limits the refresh rate at 30 Hz. Also, my current system even struggles to perform 'stable' when now streaming to my HD monitor and 4K TV, I have tried everything and the cause is due to general hardware failure. It can not even run Battlefield 1 on ULTRA nor LOW during high graphically demanding situations (like shooting where 10 other players are shooting).

An obvious solution would be upgrading my GPU. Therefore, I decided I wanted to get a GTX 1080 to be 'future proof', or i.e. I want to game at least for the coming 5 years with no noticable annoyances (low FPS). Here is were my question comes to light, would this system give what I want without the CPU being a bottleneck with respect to the GPU (OR RAM?? because @1600MHz)?

Because in such a scenario (CPU is too slow (or ram) ), I have another question. Note that the MB was socket 1150. This implies that the only core i7 would become the Intel Core i7 4790K, so i'll have to pick that CPU, so this would come down to buying a 4yr old CPU for EUR 349.00 . . . is this crazy? Comparing 4th with 7th gen on cpuboss.com it shouldn't differ significantly on average.

I could also just update my MB, personally I will not shrink down the components due to financial reasons, because I rather spend EUR 300 more then buying new again earlier (exactly at the point I am now). New MB, new RAM, new CPU and new PSU = EUR 750 approx (Z350-P Chipset, 8GB @2400Mhz, 650W PSU. I could give this PC away because selling it always yields poor value (like 400-500 EUR).

So briefly, my options become:
- Stick with i5
- Upgrade to i7 4690k (+EUR 350)
- Upgrade core to i7 8700k (+EUR 750) (+100EUR wcooling)

And i know the NVIDIA Volta is coming and I will definitely wait for this one.


Thank you in advance for any help and comments, really appreciate it

Kind regards,

Diepfrieskist
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Old December 27, 2017, 10:26 AM
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your CPU is likely just fine. if you check the benchmark scores for your 4690 vs the 7600, the difference isn't huge.

4690:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php...90+%40+3.50GHz

7600:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php...00+%40+3.50GHz

if you have the K model of the 4690, I'd say find a motherboard that will let you overclock and it will be faster than a stock 7600, which is good value. :)

so the two things you can do to help with your performance is consider finding another 8GB of RAM for 16GB and updating your GPU to something current.
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Old December 27, 2017, 11:19 AM
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your CPU is likely just fine. if you check the benchmark scores for your 4690 vs the 7600, the difference isn't huge.

4690:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php...90+%40+3.50GHz

7600:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php...00+%40+3.50GHz

if you have the K model of the 4690, I'd say find a motherboard that will let you overclock and it will be faster than a stock 7600, which is good value. :)

so the two things you can do to help with your performance is consider finding another 8GB of RAM for 16GB and updating your GPU to something current.
Thank you. Unfortunately I do not have the unlocked cpu , so i am stuck at 3.2-3.5ghz.
Recall my memory is clocked at 1600MHz. My motherboard allows DDR3-3000MHz.
Would you recommend me getting another 8GB DDR4 1600MHz? Or buy 16GB DDR3 ram with 2100+ MHz (price ratio comes in here).

Btw, totally different topic, but since we already here now: My GPU always becomes really hot (95+C, while gaming). Does this circumstance influence the performance of the motherboard (i am thinking, maybe now it has gone 'too slow' to handle 4K?) ? PC was 4 yrs old.

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