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Old January 22, 2018, 05:42 PM
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I am a little concerned that I might have thrown you off the deep end WRT switches and buttons but I can only presume FSX is the same way?

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Heh... yeah it's pretty daunting. :)

That said... I flashed up the su-25 training and it appears to be what I was looking for WRT talking me through the process.

I even managed to map electrical power and both engine start/shutdown to my flightstick's toggle switches, but that's as far as I got (other than figuring out where the bloody wheel brake was on the keyboard after I advanced my throttle and ended up on the grass.... :)

Currently printing off the full manual (250 pages) and will look at printing off the mustang one as well. (Might be better to start off with the mustang if it's got the same kind of tutorial for basic flight functions).

Thanks for the suggestion.

edit: Holy crap!!! the bloody aircraft PDF is 188 pages long as well. Reads like a textbook.....
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Old January 22, 2018, 06:26 PM
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Somebody said switches? This was my daily driver for quite some time: https://www.precisionmanuals.com/pag...744QOTSII.html. Over 400 functional switches in the cockpit.
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Old January 22, 2018, 06:41 PM
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Heh... I might be in over my head. :)

Not completely sure I'm looking for a full fledged sim. I don't need to have a button to turn on cockpit heat, I mostly just want to shoot stuff down.... (and avoid being shot down of course.... ). We'll see how it goes. :)
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IL-2 1946 is your ticket then. I thought DCS World had an easy engine start option? Oh well. I used to use a TrackIR and use mouse to click less-common things during startup. Binding every single thing to the keyboard/HOTAS is hard to remember. Guns, trim, etc already take up enough of your HOTAS buttons as it is.

There is also Wings of Prey on GOG. (DRM-free, but no coop, sounds like DRM servers were shut down so steam version cannot use DLC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bv4P7ILbpI
(random youtube vid, did not watch it all)

I was always critical of WarThunder or World of Warplanes or whatever it was for being "Wings of Prey: Pay2Win" but I had good memories of using any plane I wanted in WoP at a time when my internet connection was useless and I did not enjoy a multiplayer pay to win grindfest... *shrug*

Planes like the TF-51D are not that complicated compared to 3.0charlie's madness once you start to become familiar with it. 188 pages sounds like a lot but you can skip most of it at first, then once you are more familiar you will wish it was longer!
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Old January 23, 2018, 05:49 AM
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I picked up IL-2 1946 on HB a couple of weeks ago. :)

Don't get me wrong.... I don't mind the idea of needing to go through engine startup procedures and taxiing out for TO & Landing, I'm just not sure I'm looking for something as indepth as say the oil dilution function on the P51D that you use during engine shutdown for overheat........ ;)
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If you have any interest in space, I'd check out Elite Dangerous, even though the in game tutorials are crap. I know it's not a flight sim (well, space flight sim kinda), but it's a ton of fun with a HOTAS. The learning curve is a bit steep though, and it can be quite overwhelming, but very worth it. Especially if you're an old-school gamer who had any love for Wing Commander or Xwing vs Tie Fighter. :)
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I have akways wanted to get into flight sims but the equipment for the sims are expensive and playing with a ps1 or ps2 controler or mouse keyboard is not cool
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If you have any interest in space, I'd check out Elite Dangerous, even though the in game tutorials are crap. I know it's not a flight sim (well, space flight sim kinda), but it's a ton of fun with a HOTAS. The learning curve is a bit steep though, and it can be quite overwhelming, but very worth it. Especially if you're an old-school gamer who had any love for Wing Commander or Xwing vs Tie Fighter. :)
I've got it, and I'm even older-school than Wing C, or Xwing as I probably donated a couple of years worth of my life to the original Elite.... :)

It's on my list as well. :)
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Quick follow up here....

The basic (free) DCS World looks to be exactly what I needed. I've only done the take-off tutorial so far, but it is indeed an audio tutorial and seems to be "teaching" to my level (dumber than a stump when it comes to this.... ;) ). I suspect the landing tutorial is going to require more than just a couple of run throughs. :)

A big part of the learning curve is figuring out how to properly use/program the HOTAS, and baby steps like the short(ish) TO tutorial will go a long way towards getting me more comfortable knowing how to work with all them bloody buttons... ;)
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I don't know if you have one, but a TrackIR really makes flight games immersive. The ability to just move your head a little to look around is amazing in game, and saves some of the HOTAS controls on the hat switch for more important functions, like switching from A2A and A2G mode or changing radar modes, etc. It can be used in lots of games as well, driving games and shooters like ARMA, but I thought the immersion was best in Flight Sims.
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