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Old July 10, 2018, 08:24 AM
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I caught a few of the articles talking about a Z390 series /refresh of the the current lineup. Has there been any word on the ETA for these?

I'm mulling over a new build but there's no rush so I thought I'd see what the word is. It's mostly a gaming and emulation machine for launchbox so I'm sticking with Intel for this one since the the intel chips still do better for emulation than team red (sadly).
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I have a weird feeling that Intel is going thru some kind of marketing suicide. They completely lost the ball in every category while actually still having a great product. Idiotic Gold/Silver scheme in Xeon line, 370/390 calamity in consumer line, stale product in HEDT line on top of brainfart of 7740X. I think October will be the time for 390 release, November for Bullshit Lake-X release.
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I have a weird feeling that Intel is going thru some kind of marketing suicide. They completely lost the ball in every category while actually still having a great product. Idiotic Gold/Silver scheme in Xeon line, 370/390 calamity in consumer line, stale product in HEDT line on top of brainfart of 7740X. I think October will be the time for 390 release, November for Bullshit Lake-X release.
You forgot all of the security bugs that have been identified in their processors dating back a decade.
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I suspected it was a ways off. Thanks gents. Just going to use the spare Z97 board and 4790k I have I think. Maybe look at an upgrade when 802.11ax is on the MB or if there's massive performance gains with their next chip (unlikely knowing intel) from the 8700k
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How long until we have a chip free of the vulnerabilities? 8th gen was already pretty much out the door when all of this came to light, think they'll actually fix the problems for 9th, or stay the course of updates/patches?
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How long until we have a chip free of the vulnerabilities? 8th gen was already pretty much out the door when all of this came to light, think they'll actually fix the problems for 9th, or stay the course of updates/patches?
Ice Lake (9xxx series) will be fixed.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...ixes-ice-lake/

https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/15/1...-vulnerability
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Without putting a tinfoil hat on (and going into the whole NSA/CIA/etc etc wanting hardware level backdoors in other nations networks)... I dont think there will ever be a 'perfect' chip. Men (and women) make them. They make them under deadlines. Mistakes and flaws creep in. Thats why white hat hackers are such a vital part of the ecosystem. They find the flaws, and in time the entire system is made stronger and better for it. Worrying over this is a waste of time. Use what is best for your needs and make your own decisions on how 'safe' your home server full of pr0n really needs to be. :P
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its only to track people that are a threat to so called national security, them digital holes are human greedy made to keep the bondage power alive

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Without putting a tinfoil hat on (and going into the whole NSA/CIA/etc etc wanting hardware level backdoors in other nations networks)... I dont think there will ever be a 'perfect' chip. Men (and women) make them. They make them under deadlines. Mistakes and flaws creep in. Thats why white hat hackers are such a vital part of the ecosystem. They find the flaws, and in time the entire system is made stronger and better for it. Worrying over this is a waste of time. Use what is best for your needs and make your own decisions on how 'safe' your home server full of pr0n really needs to be. :P
This is pretty much how I feel about most of these issues. There'll always be another hack, another vicious malware, etc. Protect yourself as best you can and hope that exploits are fixed and that most of the time hackers/thieves will go after the lowest effort, low-hanging fruit instead of trying to crack a more secure computer. They've got plenty of facebook soccer moms to target with their 'password' passwords and no firewall active
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Without putting a tinfoil hat on (and going into the whole NSA/CIA/etc etc wanting hardware level backdoors in other nations networks)... I dont think there will ever be a 'perfect' chip. Men (and women) make them. They make them under deadlines. Mistakes and flaws creep in. Thats why white hat hackers are such a vital part of the ecosystem. They find the flaws, and in time the entire system is made stronger and better for it. Worrying over this is a waste of time. Use what is best for your needs and make your own decisions on how 'safe' your home server full of pr0n really needs to be. :P
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This is pretty much how I feel about most of these issues. There'll always be another hack, another vicious malware, etc. Protect yourself as best you can and hope that exploits are fixed and that most of the time hackers/thieves will go after the lowest effort, low-hanging fruit instead of trying to crack a more secure computer. They've got plenty of facebook soccer moms to target with their 'password' passwords and no firewall active

This is exactly it. We will never have a completely secure system, you just have to do what you can to keep yourself as safe as possible. And lets face it, these CPU exploits, are pretty darn minor in the grand scheme of things. It is much easier to do a tiny bit of social phishing and get actual user names and passwords to peoples accounts.

Hell look at this:
Hacker Sold Stolen U.S. Military Drone Documents On Dark Web For Just $200

Guy got these drone documents from a FTP that didn't have a proper password on it, and before that to get into the network in the first place they exploited a netgear router with a known exploit that is over 2 years old.
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