1st Gen Phenom's Gone Wild

[Yoda8232]

These are EXTEREMELY cheap, the cheapest I've seen. If your not going to OC on a Phenom II get these for dirt cheap. Heck these are cheaper than some of Intel's dual cores.


AMD Phenom 9500 Processor HD9500WCGDBOX - 2.20GHz, 4 x 512KB Cache, 1800MHz (3600 MT/s) FSB, Agena, Quad-Core, Retail, Socket AM2+, Processor with Fan
$109.99
$58 bucks off.

AMD Phenom X4 9950 Quad Core Processor HD995ZXAGHBOX - Black Edition, 2.60GHz, 4MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s) FSB, Agena, Quad-Core, Retail, Socket AM2+, Processor with Fan
$169.99
$54 bucks off.

 

[JD]

As long as they don't have that TLB issue...

 

[elec999]

What exactly is this TLB do when it happens, or how does it affect us.
Thank you

 

[CMetaphor]

What exactly is this TLB do when it happens, or how does it affect us.
Thank you

Unless you run a server or extremely cpu-intensive long-term calculations, you'll probably never notice it in your lifetime...

 

[geokilla]

Unless you run a server or extremely cpu-intensive long-term calculations, you'll probably never notice it in your lifetime...

Does Folding@Home count?

I would so get this, but spending $100 just to get 2 extra cores is just not worth it compared to my Athlon X2 @ 2.6/2.7Ghz.

 

[frontier204]

The Phenom 9500 does have the TLB bug (fixed ones at 9X50), but after doing 3x F@H uniprocessor on it for a year I doubt F@H can trip it. (the bug is supposed to lock up your computer IIRC)
The TLB "fix" is more harmful than the TLB bug itself, dramatically hurting memory bandwidth and PPD. You can disable it in BIOS unless you have Vista SP1, in which you'll have to run the TLB disable tool to prevent Microsoft from applying the fix for you.

The Phenom 9950 doesn't have the TLB bug, but it draws a lot of power. Definitely use an 8+ phase motherboard for it, or you will limit your stable OC (or you'll watch your mobo smoke, if it's a low-end one).

 

[phil3_66666]

what wappend when your cpu have tlb bug?

 

[YukonTrooper]

I wouldn't buy one for $75. h34r:

 

[Frank Encruncher]

AnandTech: AMD's B3 Stepping Phenom Previewed, TLB Hardware Fix Tested
Explains TLB bug
You need two cores calling for same data at the same time

For desktops TLB bug doesn't affect you

Four of my crunchers are 9500's(with the patch disabled)
I get 100,000 plus Boinc credits a month just from these four machines
At stock the boxes are drawing 120 watts at full load from the wall

I've never had BSOD because of TLB bug

Games, Windows and driver updates will give more grief then the TLB bug ever will.

So while you guys live in fear of the TLB boogey man I will be racking up the credits.

 

[Oversized Rooster]

Well the first gen Phenoms aren't that impressive at all. But the Gen 1.5 Phenoms are alright (I mean the 9X50 versions).

I have several of those in my household. I've got 2 machines powered by a 9750 each, an HTPC with a 9150e and I'm building a second HTPC with a 9850BE (already bought for $90).

The 9X50 CPUs don't have this TLB flaw and I've been very happy with them. I do 24/7 folding on all of them for York University.