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Old December 19, 2018, 12:25 PM
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the Asrock ITX boards rock.

what CPU? AMD or Intel?
Right now, R7 2700. :) But, I entertained ideas of selling it and getting a 2700X or i7-8700k. I'll probably just keep it and maybe build a 2nd computer.

The gpu is a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580, 8gb, I just bought. I wanted a GTX 1070 but they were $350, used, which is not bad. But, this card was slightly over $200 and it looks like it is in great condition (looks brand new - although, seller only had the anti-static bag). I didn't test it yet, though. I'm not sure it will fit in my current computer. :) I prefer to put it in a new build, anyway. Do you think it's safe to wait?

I have a Samsung 1GB SSD and 16GB of 2 sticks of Corsair, 3200MHz RAM, too.


Edit: P.S. Hey, you should know! :) I'm kidding / joking....

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Old December 19, 2018, 12:29 PM
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Nzxt S340, no hdd cages, no odd.
I thought about that one.... looks solid but kinda big, no?
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Old December 19, 2018, 02:17 PM
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Raijintek Thetis is about the smallest mass produced ATX case you will find, but it comes with serious compromises. Make sure you are okay with it's component and thermal restrictions or you will be very disappointed.

Cerberus-X is a 23.4L ATX case, but it's small production run and expensive as such.

Fractal Define C and Meshify C are about ~40L - that's about as small as you are going to get from a modern mass produced case. If you are okay with a 161mm CPU height limitation, the S340 is good too.
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Old December 19, 2018, 06:06 PM
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Nzxt S340 was extremely small for my ATX build, think it was more hype than anything else but will be a perfect fit for a mATX board.
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Old December 20, 2018, 07:15 AM
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I think I found some other contenders? Do you guys know about these cases? I think they are comparable to what has been mentioned so far.
In Win 101:
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...82E16811108532

NZNT H500 (supposedly replaceing the S340?):
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...b500750a24060d

Jonsbo U4:
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...82E16811315003

I think they all look interesting. The Jonsbo case looks like the smallest (?) but is the most expensive. I found a really good deal on the In Win if I were to get that - I am not sure if the specs are accurate but this case is only 7 lbs?!? The specs on the NZXT look the best if I should care about that....TWO usb 3.1 front ports?

I read that you are expected to buy fans at the bottom for the In Win case? I would want quiet fans. I want a semi-quiet (as quiet I can get with the hardware I'll have) and previously, I really wanted the side window for whatever case I buy but now, I think it's not necessary and even if there isn't one - it's welcomed because I read that it might add some noise? Either way, it's not a deal breaker if it has one (or not).

Any thoughts on these cases? Are they better choices than the Thetis? I really liked the Thetis for the proportions/SFF but if they are going to bring about drawbacks or consequences (compromises, too?) because of the small size and make it more difficult to keep stuff cool and the heat down, then I guess I should go with one of the cases already mentioned/listed above?
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Old December 20, 2018, 08:19 AM
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fubar, I would keep the 2700 if you're going to overclock as it will give you the same as the 2700X...if you're running stock, then consider the 2700X as I think it has a much better base clock speed.


do you need HDD or ODD cages? if so, how many? a number of motherboards support two M.2 slots or mount 2.5" HDD behind the mobo tray to keep a clean system for excellent cooling performance.


and there is no reason not to go with a mATX B450 mobo as the chipset is just as good at overclocking as the X470.


if you go ITX, look at the Define Nano S.


No Window:
https://www.fractal-design.com/home/.../define-nano-s


Windowed:
https://www.fractal-design.com/home/...-nano-s-window


or if you do find a mATX mobo you're happy with, the Define Mini C:


No Window:
https://www.fractal-design.com/home/.../define-mini-c


Windowed:
https://www.fractal-design.com/home/...-mini-c-window
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fubar, I would keep the 2700 if you're going to overclock as it will give you the same as the 2700X...if you're running stock, then consider the 2700X as I think it has a much better base clock speed.

do you need HDD or ODD cages? if so, how many? a number of motherboards support two M.2 slots or mount 2.5" HDD behind the mobo tray to keep a clean system for excellent cooling performance.

and there is no reason not to go with a mATX B450 mobo as the chipset is just as good at overclocking as the X470.

if you go ITX, look at the Define Nano S.

No Window:
https://www.fractal-design.com/home/.../define-nano-s

Windowed:
https://www.fractal-design.com/home/...-nano-s-window

or if you do find a mATX mobo you're happy with, the Define Mini C:

No Window:
https://www.fractal-design.com/home/.../define-mini-c

Windowed:
https://www.fractal-design.com/home/...-mini-c-window
I didn't plan on overclocking. :) 'Wasn't planning on getting the 2700 either. :)
My plan is to only have nvme and/or regular SSDs in the case. My HDDs will be 'data drives' and in enclosures. That way, I hope to get something small and compact and only have the essentials in there.

Most AMD mobos only support the PCIe 2.0 speed for the 2nd M.2 slot. But, I might have two nvme drives and 1 SSD (since I bought that already). But, if I build two computers, one of them might go in that - I haven't decided yet.

I don't think the mATX cases are much smaller than the ATX cases that I've listed so far. Don't you think so?
If I go with ITX, there's way more options for cases. I'd probably get the mobo I mentioned although the Asrock ITX board was suggested/recommended so I'd take a serious look at it before deciding.
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Old December 20, 2018, 11:21 AM
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you said you had the Ryzen 7 2700...so why did you say you weren't planning on getting a 2700?
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you said you had the Ryzen 7 2700...so why did you say you weren't planning on getting a 2700?
Haha, what I said wasn't entirely accurate so I'll clarify it. :)
I meant to say that I would OC a CL build but not an AMD/AM4 build with a 2700X - I was (and am still?) debating between going with AM4 or Intel but I was only considering a 2700X if I went with AMD.

The reason I ultimately picked up a 2700 is because it was on sale on Amazon.ca for one day - and the sale was almost over. I guess it was a spontaneous purchase. After taxes and with free shipping, it came to $327 total so I decided to get it. I had even suggested to people debating between the 2700 and 2700X that the 2700X is a better pick because you don't really have to OC it - it has that automatic 'boost.' But, that was at normal retail prices - the 2700X has gone up in price now, though, since then.

I was interested in something like a 8700k (still am) and would definitely OC that so it's just the AMD cpu I wasn't planning on overclocking - but, maybe I should with the 2700 - but, I originally didn't have a plan for that hardware build. :)
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why would you overclock Coffee Lake but not Ryzen Plus?
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