With September 23rd being the day rumoured for enthusiasts to be on the watch for AMD/ATI’s next generation of video cards, the HD 5870 is getting a lot of attention and the company is finding it difficult to keep the lid shut on leaks.
Their new DirectX11 HD 5870 and 5850 are being eagerly anticipated by consumers as the HD 4000 series is starting to show its age – now being year old technology. With the HD 4870X2 discontinued, it leaves only the modest mid range HD 4890 as ATI’s top card of the line, giving nVidia exclusive control of the the top end.
According to sources at gathering.tweakers.net and alienbabeltech.com the card is a serious power horse, being able to compete with current dual GPU cards! It is manufactured on the 40nm process and said to boast 1600 Stream processors, double the current HD 4890.

Alienbabeltech expands on this, ”Amazingly AMD doubled the number of SIMD units from 10 to 20. Since each SIMD unit contains 16 5-D units and a Quad-TMU overall, that means we count 1600 stream processors and 80 TMUs. We are talking about a new videocard whose core speed is at 850 MHz and whose 256-bit GDDR5 runs at 1200 MHz“. There will likely be both 1GB and 2GB variants
As the photos show, the monster also includes 3 unique video output options, including DVI, HDMI and Display port. Here is where another cool feature crops up, claimed as “Eyefinity” said to support up to triple displays at 2560X1600 each, with the most powerful models claimed to support up to six!
All of this is said to pull less than 190watts at full load. And what will all of this set you back? Supposedly less than $399.
The little sibling, the HD 5850 also looks very promising with 1440 SP’s and a clock speed of 700/1000. It is expected to be released with a $299 price tag. To round out the lineup is the HD 5870X2, dual GPU variant, is expected to be announced around October 20th, 2009 and will be the flagship card, doubling up on all the 5870’s features, and expected to be slapped with a sticker price of $599.
Please keep in mind that all information and photos should be regarded as rumours, however the sources do quote “trusted sources” and have some pretty convincing evidence.
Images Courtesy: gathering.tweakers.net
Source: alienbabeltech

September 10, 2009 11:06 AM
Damn, the card looks like a Soviet submarine...
September 10, 2009 11:11 AM
Anyone know of the aprox. pricing structure of the 5850's?
September 10, 2009 11:19 AM
Whoops - Pricing for the 5850 and 5870X2 was in a more current revision of the story. Check again at the bottom
$299 and $599 respectively.
September 10, 2009 11:21 AM
*drooling*
Looks like my GTX295 might go one sale... but we'll see how the 300-series from Nvidia stacks up against this.
September 10, 2009 11:21 AM
JESUS
September 10, 2009 11:22 AM
I don't know about these cards and Folding. ATI's stream processor implementation has always been inferior to that of Nvidia's on a one versus one basis which is why they need more to get the job done. I would expect no more than a 80% increase in folding capability over a standard HD 4870 which isn't really saying much considering what Nvidia and Intel both have in the pipeline.
September 10, 2009 11:24 AM
September 10, 2009 11:24 AM
Is it just me, or does the back of this card have two very huge pcie power connectors? I guess Enermax had the inside scoop with their "future-friendly" PSUs cause those connectors look like 2x 10pin or larger (hard to tell).
September 10, 2009 11:24 AM
The Hunt for Red October begins...

Seriously, that is one damn good looking card. An all red setup would give me an e-boner.
September 10, 2009 11:30 AM
Jesus... I have a 5850 with my name on it, it seems then lol
September 10, 2009 11:30 AM
September 10, 2009 11:32 AM
Those cards are starting to make me drool, but I've got to wait... Hopefully my 4890 won't get its
kicked too bad by those... but then again I hope it does
September 10, 2009 11:34 AM
Can't comment about Intel's plans for the next year. However, I am going to caution ALL of you to hold off on purchasing a card until all the players have shown their hands. I can promise you that ATI will have to drop their pricing faster than you can believe in the month or two following launch.
You can oogle all you want but if you go and spend $300 on a card that quickly drops to $200, at least I can say: "I told you so".
September 10, 2009 11:34 AM
Larabee!

Was supposed to debut in 2009, but Intel has its hands full I guess.
I can't see them offering anything that would compete with the high end nvidia and ati offerings, but I can certainly see some great mid-range cards and awesome prices and some real power house units, great for offloading tasks to... like say oh... folding
September 10, 2009 11:35 AM
Then I'll stick to the 260 and 9600GSO for a while, and wait.
September 10, 2009 11:36 AM
whoah whoah whoah...
Intel GPU?
And in other words.... you would anticipate massive price drops after launch? seems like a pretty steep prod line life cycle if you ask me... I understand the reasoning with having higher first launch pricing, but damn....
September 10, 2009 11:43 AM
Nvidia did the same thing with their 200-series which were caught with their pants down when the HD 4000-series launched. Luckily, Nvidia partners offered discounts for early adopters after prices shot through the floor. Do you see ATI's board partners doing the same thing when prices take a tumble soon after launch? I'll give you one guess...
Hint: NO.
September 10, 2009 11:45 AM
Damn! Murdered out son! I won't be upgrading any time soon, but that does sound promising. Especially the price!
September 10, 2009 11:48 AM
From Anandtech.. AnandTech: Beginnings of the Holodeck: AMD's DX11 GPU, Eyefinity and 6 Display Outputs
September 10, 2009 11:51 AM
September 10, 2009 11:52 AM
Interesting article, but who wants to pay $6000+ for 6 monitors? And imagine the shipping charges. Another $500+?
September 10, 2009 11:53 AM
Hint: NO.
September 10, 2009 12:00 PM
What I am saying here is what I say EVERY time a new card is launched:
1) Don't expect it to perform miracles considering even the $200 cards of today can play literally any game at 60FPS+++ at 2560 x 1600 resolution with AA enabled. No to mention that there won't be any DX11 games for the next few months either.
2) Because of my #1 statement, people should be more than willing to at least wait a few months until Nvidia shows their hand.
September 10, 2009 12:01 PM
My last ATI card was a 8mb rage pro,but it sure looks nice.
Can't wait to see what Nvidia has....should be good we hope.
September 10, 2009 12:07 PM
XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Radeon HD 5870 Six with 6 display outputs, prices, performance
September 10, 2009 12:20 PM
2 words

STOKED STOKEDER
September 10, 2009 12:36 PM
I need new pants
September 10, 2009 01:08 PM
September 10, 2009 01:26 PM
Three monitors? Matrox already does that quite well.
I understand that this is an interesting tech demo but to me it looks like e-peen waving from ATI once again for a technology that will only see limited release. Other examples in this category:
- Havok on their GPUs
- The disaster that is now ATI's Stream
- The "revival" of the All in Wonder cards. Very limited release until MONTHS after release / reviews.
- Proper support for their FireGL series of cards. Trust me, I'm still waiting.
One way or another, the standard HD 5800-series will include the usual 2 DVIs and maybe a single displayport if we are lucky. What you are looking at is a niche product / tech demonstrator which will cost substantially more than a standard card.
September 10, 2009 03:18 PM
the new cards look nice, i just hope they are quiet
September 10, 2009 04:09 PM
Dude, 6X30 inch monitors are CRAZY!!! Now image 6 1080P projectors!!! DROOLZ...
September 10, 2009 04:12 PM
Folding?
I'd want to see some benchmark folding as well as what nVidia has in their 300 series before making any real "jumps" for folding
September 10, 2009 04:15 PM
Fortunately, my 4770's handle everything I can throw at them, and I have no money, so I can wait things out.
September 10, 2009 05:28 PM
Just wait....Honestly like SKY said most of the cards can pull of +60fps not to mention that direct x 11 won't be implemented into games a few months after. Also, price cuts are going to happen making it better to decide.....
September 10, 2009 05:29 PM
how bout Dirt 2? Some say its DX11???
September 10, 2009 05:37 PM
September 10, 2009 06:15 PM
As for AnandTech saying that it got over 80FPS in WoW, everyone says that WoW is more CPU dependent than GPU dependent....
@CM. It's a forum, we're allowed to discuss? Lol
September 10, 2009 07:11 PM
Doesnt it kinda seem like just yesterday DX 10 was the next big thing... and now we're already getting dx11 titles coming out.....
September 10, 2009 07:42 PM
September 10, 2009 08:23 PM
Actually, the developers we talked to have stated that they expect DX11 implementation into games to be slower than DX10 was.
September 10, 2009 08:53 PM
Glad to see ATI giving nVidia a run for their money!
September 10, 2009 08:56 PM
I think I read somewhere that DX11 will be implemented into some current games and some current cards will support some of the features in DX11. But that could just be false information....
September 10, 2009 09:58 PM
I want see how many fps you get at those resolutions


Just imagine if this worked with 3D glasses
(Quake III Arena)
September 11, 2009 12:22 AM
Just imagine if this worked with 3D glasses
(Quake III Arena)
These look nice, but I agree with Sky, see what nvidia has in store as well. I may be buying a new comp in the next few weeks, but I'll just be grabbing a 260GTX at best, until the new cards are released.
September 11, 2009 05:14 AM
I just bought a GTX275... And It'll be gone if the 300 series completely blows it outta the water. However I am an nVidia fan. And I'll admit it even with my AMD processor.
September 11, 2009 05:25 AM
Does your GTX 275 play all the current games? Yes
Does your GTX 275 have at least 6 months left in the tank? Yes
Will your GTX 275 play most of if not all of the upcoming games? Yes
If you answered yes to all of these questions, you are totally fine with your GTX 275. ;)
September 11, 2009 05:28 AM
LOL that 8x3 setup can only get 15 fps on quake 3. Shame...:P
September 11, 2009 09:45 AM
Hopefully EYEfinity pans out, because if so, then I have some shopping plans.
September 11, 2009 10:24 AM
Judging from all the hints SKY has been dropping, I would say it might be a good idea to hold off on buying this card until we see the competition.
It's as if he knows something we don't.... but isn't allowed to say it.
September 11, 2009 10:45 AM
I wish I had "sources"...
September 11, 2009 10:52 AM
It's as if he knows something we don't.... but isn't allowed to say it.
September 11, 2009 11:05 AM
We are hitting a point of diminishing need for this extra hardware horsepower. My oc'ed 260 plays everytyhing out there maxed.
September 11, 2009 11:13 AM
September 11, 2009 05:28 PM
I agree. 2560 x 1600 is a very large jump in pixels and clarity. It is double the pixels from 1920 x 1200. I have a 24" monitor for my other rig and a 30" monitor for my main rig. Side by side there is an incredible difference. Games look sharper and you can view more at the same time. At 2560 x 1600 you can not max out every game. And when I talk about maxed out that means full resolution with all eye candy turned on with at least 4x AA. So I can list off a bunch of games that can not be 60 fps or above on my rig but I don't want to right now. (I am at the hospital)
September 11, 2009 06:45 PM
I know its only an ES and chances are high(pretty much 99%) that they will be manufactured in China, but seeing "Made in Canada" on ATi's latest KICKASS GPU brings a tear to my eye(finity).
September 11, 2009 06:55 PM
September 12, 2009 07:09 AM
30" and 2560X1600 resolution is the only possible monitor that needs more horsepower right now. My HD4830 handles any game out there at 1920X1200. I am not saying it maxxes them all out, but there is no game out that I cannot set to run smoothly with decent settings with my current PC configuration.
September 12, 2009 07:37 AM
My logic is thus:
I cannot afford a 30" monitor
I do not need extreme performance at my current resolution
Therefore, I do not need the new series of graphics cards and I cannot afford a setup that does.
Lets just hope my logic holds true when these things hit store shelves :)
September 12, 2009 07:39 AM
my 9600GT does 1080 res well without aa and in med to high settings (GRID)
September 12, 2009 01:11 PM
One more vote for 2560X1600 as the main reason to upgrade, currently there's no solution be it single card or SLI that can run all games maxed with at least 4MSAA. Still haven't played through Crysis, first I didn't have good enough GPU to run it, once I got proper card, resolution went up, hope next card will nail it on a head.
September 12, 2009 01:34 PM
September 13, 2009 08:07 PM
Card looks huge, 12" or something, not gonna fit in my main case (ironically will fit in HTPC case, where its' not needed).
September 13, 2009 08:18 PM
So far the ATi's low-mid lineup is quite dominant, and from the looks of RV870, that trend should be able to continue.
Lastly, ATi's early release is going to impact the psychological war on GPUs. Even IF Nvidia can put out the fastest card on the planet, they'll be coming later (from the looks of it..a few months). Getting this gap between release and competition is quite crucial.
September 14, 2009 01:37 AM
I think ATI has bounced back nicely but Nvidia has new stuff out sooner than you think. Some do not even know they have GTX300 stuff, mostly mobile but the big guns are coming right after the new ATI.
I have 2 GTX 260 Core 216 OC'd but am still intrigued in the 5870...maybe one after I go X58 or P55. It will be nice to have both SLi and Xfire options in case ATI has a big beaver coming out.
September 14, 2009 11:15 AM
I have 2 GTX 260 Core 216 OC'd but am still intrigued in the 5870...maybe one after I go X58 or P55. It will be nice to have both SLi and Xfire options in case ATI has a big beaver coming out.
September 14, 2009 02:01 PM
I hope you guys are ready for these numbers:




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new pants may be needed....
September 14, 2009 04:02 PM
Those numbers look very interesting. Almost makes me want to get a 5870 (besides the fact that I want to use 3D vision on my next PC). See what the GTX300 series does I guess.
September 14, 2009 04:10 PM
Good god, what a jump.
September 14, 2009 04:39 PM
Are those numbers really that impressive? It seems to be (generally speaking) the 5870 is a 'better' gtx295 only at Ultra-high resolutions. The same applies for a 5850 vs 285 (why didnt they use the 275 I wonder? Hrm).
Just goes to show that last gens top end are still equal to the new gens midrange, again, if you ask this guy.
September 14, 2009 04:46 PM
It looks like my favorite games only get 5-10 FPS boost. GTX 300 better get higher results to get my money.
September 14, 2009 05:34 PM
Yea, I am not overly impressed with those numbers. I mean sure they are better, but not by a huge margin. Plus lets face it almost all of those are playable framerates, even on the "old" cards.
September 14, 2009 08:07 PM
but the launch price is $299-$399

the 5850 $299 = GTX 285 $299 (current price)
the 5870 $399 = GTX 295 $499 (current price)
those ATI prices will likely take a dive after the launch of the gtx 3xx series.
but the question now is; will nvidia put out a monster card like back in the 8800gtx days or will they crash and burn since there trying to rush the gtx 3xx into releasing this year.
Only time will tell
don't quote me, i am just stating whats in my mind right now
September 14, 2009 08:28 PM
i hope this comes with a box of tissues, some lotion and maybe a condom... thats right ATI bend over
September 14, 2009 08:40 PM
new pants may be needed....
BTW, where did you find those numbers?
September 14, 2009 08:43 PM
More hawt pictures!!!!


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September 14, 2009 10:08 PM
that's a 10.5" card right there.