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Microsoft Makes Big Sacrifices but EU Still Not Satisfied  

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Posted by FiXT— June 15th, 2009, 10:22 AM


microsoftvseu 300x199 Microsoft Makes Big Sacrifices but EU Still Not Satisfied

In the never ending saga of Microsoft vs the European Union, new developments have been announced regarding Microsoft’s latest attempts to smooth things over in it’s European market, unfortunately the EU isn’t still is not happy and is adamant about continuing its pursuit for cash…err, justice.


Starting with its record fine of approx $800 million USD  in 2004, the EU has seemed to have found its primary cash cow, rather target, rather….. well to be truthful, there really is no pleasant way to word it. After handing down an astonishing $1.4 Billion fine last year in 2008 (for failing to comply quickly enough with the their 2004 decision) the Commission announced in January of 2009, that they would yet again be investigating Microsoft’s perceived unfair monopoly in only offering its own Internet Explorer browser on Microsoft’s Windows Operating Systems. As with Windows Media Player, which in compliance with the 2004 ruling was removed from specially labelled “N” versions of Windows – Microsoft announced they would would be completely removing  IE from “E” versions in Europe for the upcoming release of Windows 7, and store shelves will only feature “N” and “E” versions of the Windows software, with no options for a regular edition.


Vice President and Deputy General Counsel for Microsoft, Dave Heiner write, ”We’re committed to making Windows 7 available in Europe at the same time that it launches in the rest of the world, but we also must comply with European competition law as we launch the product.”

“Given the pending legal proceeding, we’ve decided that instead of including Internet Explorer in Windows 7 in Europe, we will offer it separately and on an easy-to-install basis to both computer manufacturers and users.”

 ”Microsoft will not offer for distribution in the European territory the Windows 7 product versions that contain IE, which are intended for distribution in the rest of the world,” reported Microsoft  to its OEM partners “This will apply to both OEM and Retail versions of Windows 7 products.” 


How Microsoft exactly plans to dump IE and allow OEM’s and end users to choose their browser is unknown. The EU has suggested a ballot selection system, which would have the major browsers included for a user to select during the install process. Though potentially, Microsoft could opt to include no browser at all, letting OEMs determine the software they wish to ship, and leaving end users hanging; having to obtain a suitable browser themselves via telekinetics or however else one expects to download a browser, without using a browser.


Microsoft had hoped this would help to stave off further investigation, and possibly fines, showing that they are committed to working with the EU to find a suitable solution. 


Unfortunately the EU isn’t about to let this money tree just die. In a statement released after Microsoft’s announcement, the Commission said they were sticking to their guns and would still be pursuing charges, asserting that Microsoft has been acting unfairly since 1995 when IE was first introduced into the operating system.  Even if the the Commission gets their way and forces Microsoft to bundle competing browsers with the OS in a ballot system, it is likely the investigation and inevitable “trial” will continue.


“At the level of both computer manufacturers and retail sales, the Commission’s statement of objections (SO) suggested that consumers should be provided with a genuine choice of browsers. Given that over 95 percent of consumers acquire Windows pre-installed on a PC, it is particularly important to ensure consumer choice through the computer manufacturer channel.”


It will be interesting to see Microsoft’s final response come release day, October 22nd 2009. If the browser bundle does make it through – what type of hits will IE take in the European markets?  Will it cause confusion amongst a large majority of consumers who may have never heard or used of these competing browsers? And will Microsoft be investigated again if they decide to put IE at the top of the ballot box, or having it selected by default; using their position as the operating system’s developer to unfairly direct users towards their own product.


The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions HardwareCanucks or its staff


Tags: antitrust, EU, internet explorer, Microsoft, Operating System, Windows 7

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Comments (16)

  1. H-F says:
    June 15, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    I have to say that the author is pretty biased siding with Microsoft. As a consumer, I totally agree with the EU.

  2. RJ says:
    June 15, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Someone elsewhere pointed something out: if you buy an off-the-shelf copy of Win 7 with no IE, how do you go about getting another browser? This is going to cause terrible headaches for the average user. Not a problem for those of us with other access (say, to download a different browser to a USB stick), but it’s limiting to the average user and it WILL happen.

    Also, does the ruling even matter anymore? There are plenty of well-known options out there for browsers; monopolistic or not, MS’s behavior at least allows users onto the net by default. The people in the know about other browsers may or may not choose another one; everyone else simply doesn’t care (either through ignorance or choice).

    I agree with the author – at this point it seems about money and punishing MS rather than actually making a difference to the EU consumer.

  3. FiXT says:
    June 15, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    @ H-F

    Hey H-F. The article is definitely more of an “opinion” article, no denial – but solely based on facts.

    Just for the sake of discussion – What and Why exactly do you agree with the EU on this issue? Arguably they are pursuing the purse, under the guise of equality for all browsers. MS has preemptively decided to abide by the EU’s request but seemingly that is not good enough. They want it their way or the highway, and want to prove that in their eyes, Microsoft has done wrong and should be punished.

    If you were to invent a product, say a car or something and you also happened to be in the tire business. You would THINK you would have the right, to put YOUR tires, on your CAR that you had developed, built and sold. It would seem a little ridiculous to offer to include other competitor companies tires on your vehicle, would it not? Especially if there was NO incentive for you, no kickbacks, except that you will now loose potential profit on your tires.

    If other browsers want to be featured in the Windows OS, they should have to pay/work for that privilege.

    Don’t get me wrong. I would LOVE to install Chrome straight off the bat during my install, but ethically, I think the EU is focussed on the wrong things. There are far more pressing anti-trust violations being committed by many other companies – they just don’t pay out as well as Microsoft.

    @RJ

    Excellent points. The EU has stated they want MS to include other browsers during install (see car analogy above). Otherwise users will be up a certain creek without a paddle. I haven’t seen any browsers producing install disks lately either.

    That said, the option of NOT including a browser at all, would only hurt consumers – but it would put the onus on the browser developers to properly market their own software in order to attract consumers, instead of making Microsoft responsible for their products. I would say this is the most “fair” solution, if there is one…

  4. Ogdin says:
    June 15, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    Ya i think you nailed it right on the head FiXT.

  5. bojangles says:
    June 15, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Having the option to choose a browser during install would confuse new users. Instead, I would prefer a pop-up upon first opening of IE to say that there are other “options” out there for browsers to suit that person’s needs. They can’t just leave out a browser. It’s ridiculous. IE8 is actually pretty good in terms of speed, and it gets the job done. I, however, use Firefox because of it’s customization abilities.

    Changing the install would cause a lot of headaches, but by implementing a choice upon opening the browser could provide information of the different browsers for the user.

  6. Relayer says:
    June 15, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    This doesn’t seem to be about compliance. It smacks of good old fashion European protectionism, to me.

  7. r0bc says:
    June 16, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    I don’t see what the big deal is. We only have to use IE for updates and we need something to DL firefox with.
    Are the EU going after Apple for including Safari with there OS?

  8. FiXT says:
    June 16, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    @r0bc
    Primarily it is the injustice of it all that has people talking. Most likely (as with WMP) Microsoft will be sued an exorbitant amount – not that they can’t afford it, but for the EU it seems to just be a money grab.

    As well is sets a very lopsided precedent. Basically stating that what Microsoft is doing is illegal, but other companies such as Apple, are free to mimic the scheme without penalty. Apple has been doing it for years, with virtually every program on their OS. No the EU will not be going after them for Quicktime or Safari, or the iLife suite nor anything else.

    I feel that the “Apple does it too” card is a bit cheap though, as this is between MS and the EU

  9. r0bc says:
    June 16, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    I don’t understand why its illegal and if it is illegal Apple and others are guilty to regardless of the percentage or market share.If its wrong its wrong.Just imagine Apples next OS comes with IE prebundled…not a chance.

    Why would Microsoft include someones else product?
    If we were forced to use only MS products on the OS I could see a problem but that isn’t the case, we can install and use whatever we like.

    I’m not a MS fanboy but they are getting the shaft on this one IMO and I would love to see them release the OS without a browser cause someone in the EU didn’t think this through.

  10. r0bc says:
    June 16, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    I wonder if the EU had this in mind, bet most residents would prefer to have IE bundled.

    Even without a browser, Windows 7 users can download software via FTP by using the operating system’s file manager. In Windows Explorer, users can set up a new “network location” using a wizard-like tool, then specify an FTP server with the syntax “ftp://ftp.address.com,” such as “ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox,” where Firefox is located.

  11. stanley milgram says:
    June 20, 2009 at 1:20 am

    so what exactly is EU being protectionist for? is their financial well-being tied to chrome? FF? safari? it’s not protectionism at all, if you can look up the definition for the term before spouting it that is.

    MS treats consumers as cash cows regardless, i feel no sympathy in any way…. whatsoever, for the largest software developer/thief in man-kind’s history. Many ppl’s financial well-being is tied to MS in a big way in this country/continent, be it through demo software opportunities or advertising revenue. I think you’ll find much of the same “fair and balanced coverage” you’d find on faux news, in this case.

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  13. KeepSix says:
    June 27, 2009 at 7:51 am

    If I was Bill, I’d say “to heck with it” and pull out of the EU. He has enough money. Wouldn’t that be awesome? Pull every Windoze license on Earth. We ALL have to pay for the EU’s cash grab. Same as a car crash- the insurer just increases everyone’s rates. I’ve been using the car analogy to explain this to people, too. I used the engine as an example. I don’t expect a Ford engine to fit my Dodge, and it SHOULDNT! And personally, I don’t think M$ should even have to make their OS compatible with other browsers- it’s their product, period. Use something else if you dont like IE. Or use another OS.

  14. tzetsin says:
    July 7, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    I believe an operating system should be able to do EVERYTHING I want to do, right out of the box. I shouldnt have to buy/download a browser to cruise the internet, nor a media player to listen to music, nor an email program to check my email… look at everything that microsoft has added to a base program that barely costs more than 100 dollars. imagine how much more its going to cost people when you have to buy functionality seperatly.

    If Microsoft went out of its way to make sure you HAD to use their product, then i’d be a little pissy, but really, what does microsoft have to gain by ADDING this functionality in for FREE?? Why are people upset about this??

    Apple is one big ball of proprietary, they should have the anti trust litigation against THEM.

  15. 3 of 7 says:
    July 14, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    I think a person has to look at what the EU is trying to achieve (or rather prevent in this case).
    Anti monopoly laws are written to avoid the kind of pain the US is going through right now with it’s auto industry.
    I’m pretty sure the average American wouldn’t mind if they could turn back the clocks and have their government stop GM from spending all of it’s money buying other companies instead of making a usable product.
    In today’s world, if MS were to fail, we’d be in a bit of a pickle without third party software companies and we just won’t have them without reeling in Microsoft a tad.
    MS could have avoided the fines by adhering to EU laws in the first place instead of challenging them.

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