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Old September 6, 2008, 05:16 PM
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I have an oldschool water cooling setup from CPUFX. I used it to cool a a VP6 board with dual P3 750's @1GHZ+ on TEC's that and it worked well with an old MSI Pro266TD LR Master with dual tualatins and DDR RAM overclocked and TEC cooled.Could this setup cool a X3350? This setup handle two 80watt TEC's and the pump was only a really small submersible fish tank pump.

If i went to a pump with some real GPH would this kit handle a Quadcore?

MY Kit is the same as this except I have a rad thats twice as long and has 4 120mm fans on it.
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Old September 6, 2008, 06:14 PM
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By the time you buy a pump and CPU block, you might as well just pickup a new radiator as they're relatively cheap.

In that link the radiator clearly looks to be aluminum and all decent CPU blocks are copper. Mixing metals it not recommended due to corrosion and what not.

I run a MCR220-QP + D-TEK FuZion v2 + MCP355 w/ XSPC top on my X3350. Keeps the load temps under 60C.
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I was thinking about attempting to use one of the blocks I own with that rad and a new pump, that system cooled two 80watt peltiers with that pos pump. Do you think it could handle one X3350 with a high GPH pump? Corrosion or copper/aluminum reaction is nothing to worry about if you use a small amount of automotive antifreeze in your cooling loop. I ran that system for years it has an aluminum rad and a aluminum res and haven't ever seen any odd corrosion problems.
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No old CPU block is going to cool a quad-core effectively as they weren't made for it. They were most likely made for single core, exposed die CPUs.

I remember people trying to use DangerDen's original TDX on their Q6600s and what not and it ended up with much higher temps compared to other new blocks that are more geared towards quads.

You can give it a shot though but don't been overly disappointed if it doesn't work out.

And unless you have a P45/X48 motherboard, I doubt you're really OCing all that much so really a good air cooled heatsink would do you fine. I merely wanted water cooling for the "bling" factor.
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I merely wanted water cooling for the "bling" factor.
I am running a X3350 @3.0GHZ @1.248V. What voltage is yours running at @3.4ghz? I believe that if lowered the temperature of my cpu even without gaining any more speed that that would be beneficial to the cpu's life span and hey if i dropped 5c of the temp perhaps i col clock it up abit. I don't think your "bling" comment was fair considering what I posted for water cooling equipment and the time that i purchased that kit was 1999.
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You know about the corrosion issues and how to handle them so I won't give you a lecture on that, plus you've been doing it long enough to know what works I'm assuming. You say that system handled two 80W TECs plus what ever the CPU's were contributing?, then yeah it's enough for a X3350, they're only rated at 95W. Unless your block is an impingement type that needs higher pressures to work well I'm not sure a monster pump will net you a significant increase. Sure it will help a little, as will a better rad, and a better block, but unless you're going for every last MHz for a maximum OC then you might not miss the few extra °C.

If I were you I wouldn't buy a thing and try what you have right now and see if you're satisfied with the results. If not then look for the weakest link in the chain (which would probably be the block) and then decide on an upgrade path. Love the old school stuff! My first pump was a Little Giant fountain pump (R.I.P.) and I still use my pair of '86 Chevette heater cores for rads in my Cosmos.
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I am running a X3350 @3.0GHZ @1.248V. What voltage is yours running at @3.4ghz? I believe that if lowered the temperature of my cpu even without gaining any more speed that that would be beneficial to the cpu's life span and hey if i dropped 5c of the temp perhaps i col clock it up abit. I don't think your "bling" comment was fair considering what I posted for water cooling equipment and the time that i purchased that kit was 1999.
I meant that I mainly bought water cooling for looks. Didn't really do much to my CPU temps. Wasn't directing that towards you, or I didn't mean to.

My X3350 runs 3.4GHz @ 1.216V for the most part but due to my motherboard being rather crappy with 45nm quads it's unstable at random times. 3.33GHz seems to be fully stable though using the same voltage.

IIRC I can run 3.0GHz with stock voltage so I'm not sure why you need so much.

I still want to make the point that the CPU block you have is probably inadequate to cool a quad-core efficiently and you'd probably have to rig up your own mounting.
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You say that system handled two 80W TECs plus what ever the CPU's were contributing?, then yeah it's enough for a X3350, they're only rated at 95W.
The cold side of a TEC is on the CPU and the hot side is on the HSF/water block so the max that CPUFX system saw HW wise was 160-170w.

I thought that the x3350 cpu's were rated higher then that, I wouldn't have bothered posting if i knew they only put out 95w. I've read a few posts where people were recommending 300wat+ TEC's for quad core cpu's

My link to united pumps won't link directly to my old United AP-145 Max lift 4' GPH 0-140 pump. I can't belive this Sub pump acutaly cooled my old TEC system, I recently took a barb off and this pump trickled water out. My old iwaki pump would shoot water across the room, I was thinking of getting another 20 or 30 iwaki.

I would love to slowly upgrade this WC system if i could but I am sure the inner diam of tubing and blocks has changed since 99. So if I change one thing I have to change everything. besides the pump that is.
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