Fear of Liquid Cooling

[Supergrover]

Originally Posted by 3.0charlie

I've never used a fan controller - I always set-up my fan speeds through the BIOS. I like clean cases and always found that fan controllers were too much for me.

If you want a real quiet fan, try this one: 60mm Delta. Delta 60x10mm Low Speed 13 CFM, 24dBA. I've bought a few times from Sidewinder Computers - great service and shipping.

John

I never run any fans though my mobo, for one thing it's less draw for 2 I like control on the fly, for instance if I am going to game well the GFX gets cranked sure software can do it but then again my BIOS reads my Panaflo's as 1700rpm were as my fan controller reads the correct 2200rpm, so obviously the BIOS readings are incorrect.

[3.0charlie]

Agreed on all your points; but remember that I build computers for customers which have no clue what's inside them.... I cannot imagine my last customer playing around with the fan controllers - all they want is a fast, stable computer. They don't care about money, but they want no fuss, no mess.

Most have no idea what is the BIOS, anyway.

John

[Supergrover]

Originally Posted by 3.0charlie

Agreed on all your points; but remember that I build computers for customers which have no clue what's inside them.... I cannot imagine my last customer playing around with the fan controllers - all they want is a fast, stable computer. They don't care about money, but they want no fuss, no mess.

Most have no idea what is the BIOS, anyway.

John

I hear you there, "so BIOS is that a program?":rtfm:

[3.0charlie]

Originally Posted by Supergrover

I hear you there, "so BIOS is that a program?":rtfm:

Nightmares from my first customer: "where do I click to start the BIOS?"



That's why I keep everything simple. Fan controllers are great, but add too many knobs to the computer.

John

[Patriote]

LOL! Oh yeah a Fan controller is so complicated for ppls that answer "Yeah, umm... i have Windows?!" to some one asking "What computer you got?"



I really like that build into that P180 you did. But I have no clue how you are working into theses. I mean it's so small....Can you say clutter ?

[Babrbarossa]

Originally Posted by 3.0charlie

If you want a real quiet fan, try this one: 60mm Delta. Delta 60x10mm Low Speed 13 CFM, 24dBA. I've bought a few times from Sidewinder Computers - great service and shipping.

not sure how good these would be at forcing air through a rad (nice and low profile for external rad mounts, though). I have silent fans lying around everywhere here, but I prefer performace over silence anyday.

[3.0charlie]

Originally Posted by Patriote

I really like that build into that P180 you did. But I have no clue how you are working into theses. I mean it's so small....Can you say clutter ?

Thank you. Clutter? Not really - cable management wasn't done yet. I'll take a pic of the 3rd rig I'm actually building tonight. Looks better. There are some tricks with the P180...

not sure how good these would be at forcing air through a rad (nice and low profile for external rad mounts, though). I have silent fans lying around everywhere here, but I prefer performace over silence anyday.

It all depends what is your priority - silence vs. performance. My customers usually choose silence. Except for one and his damn Tornado...

[3.0charlie]

As promised, some pics of my last build.







John

[Patriote]

Temps ?

[3.0charlie]

Idle: 24C stock. Just started oc'ing.