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Old March 22, 2008, 05:58 PM
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Default Need help with first water cooling setup.

I've decided with this new build to do with water cooling. I don't need to do GPU cooling since I will not be overclocking the video card. I have a lot of questions and some parts I know what I want to get.

Swiftech MCP655 12V Industrial Water Cooling Pump 1/2IN Barbs - $74.99
Swiftech APOGEE GT S478/LGA775/S754/S940/S939/AM2 3/8IN & 1/2IN &1/4IN Barbs - $44.99
Swiftech MCRES-MICRO Clear HI-FLOW Water Cooling Reservoir 3/8IN & 1/2IN Barb Fittings - which I can't seem to find anywhere

Should I get a single 120 rad or a double?
Is 1/2" tubing better than 3/8"?
What are the best type of clamps to get?

I was thinking about use this fluid in my loop. - Primochill PC Ice NON-CONDUCTIVE Water Replacement 32OZ - UV Green
With this fluid would I need to add anything else and is 32oz enough.

I'm going to be getting an E2160 to start just until I have enough money to get a new 45nm Quad Core

My goal is to do 360x9 1.8GHz to 3.2GHz
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Old March 22, 2008, 06:09 PM
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1/2" is barely better than 3/8" and if anything 3/8" is much easier to deal with and does not kink as easily as 1/2". You could use a single 120MM rad, but you would severly limit yourself for future upgrades. I'd get a MCR220 if I were you. Cheap and very effective. The MCRES-MOCRO is in stock on NCIX, I just got one less than 2 weeks ago. I'd also suggest the MCP355 pump too since it is nearly silent and so much smaller and easier to mount inside a case. 32OZ of fluid would be more than enough although I use tap water and a shot of automotive anti-freeze myself. I've never used those fluids, but all I have read shows they are atleast as effective as water. As for clamps, the little plastic ones you can order in the Swiftech section work fine. Technically, you could run without them, but that is kinda risky, especially since you can get them cheap. And I just read you are getting a Quad so you will want atleast a dual 120MM radiator.
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Old March 22, 2008, 06:11 PM
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Get a double RAD, you will not regret it. For tubing, go with 7/16" as it is easy to work with, and fits very tight and secure on 1/2 barbs. Just use Zipties for clamps. Nothing more is needed with 7/16" tubing!
Using that fluid is fine, but I just use distilled water. It's like $2 for at least 2.5L, plus you can add dyes and Biocide to make it better. Biocide keeps it clean essentially, not letting algae form. Dyes just make it look cool.

The MCP655 is very strong. I love it. Yes, it is kinda large, but it has never let me down, and I can usually find somewhere for it to go.
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You'll want at least a dual 120mm rad unless you're going to pay the big bucks for a high-end 120mm.

1/2" barbs is the norm but there is some question about how much difference 3/8" tubing makes. Many folks use 1/2" barbs with 7/16" tubing for a better seal.
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Should I replace all the plastic barbs with metal ones? If So which barbs do you recommend?

As for tubing what brand would you recommend? Is the Swiftech tubing good enough?

For the waterblock I would still use MX-2 TIM correct?

With the rad would you use Scythe S-flex fans?

For the smartcoils I mainly want these for aesthetics for 7/16" would I use the 625 series? I'd like to get the clear smart coils.
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I'll chime in with about the same , 2x120 rad for sure, I use distilled water (with some hydrx) here too, it's cheap enough.

7/16 or 3/8 tubing IMO.

I like the stainless steel worm driven clamps from a hardware store personally.

If you have the room then go with the 655 they are a hell of a pump.

the microres is a nice little unit and can be installed pretty much anywhere with just the suppled hardware, I know Steve will agree with me on this one.;)

Bow that GT!

What your budget BTW?
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I swear by 3/8" tubing only - a bigger tubing size is not worth the hassle of a few degrees' difference; a dual-fan rad is a must for future expansion. The MCP355 is a very powerful pump, still half the size of the 655.
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Should I replace all the plastic barbs with metal ones? If So which barbs do you recommend? Stainless Steel Worm driven clamps found at Crappytire.

As for tubing what brand would you recommend? Is the Swiftech tubing good enough? I prefer Tygon but if you are useing smarcoils then I would say yes

For the waterblock I would still use MX-2 TIM correct? Yes

With the rad would you use Scythe S-flex fans? What rad?

For the smartcoils I mainly want these for aesthetics for 7/16" would I use the 625 series? I'd like to get the clear smart coils. Yup should fit.
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I was thinking of a budget of around $200-$250

For tubing so I go with Tygon 3603 3/8" ID (1/2" OD) Clear Tubing or Tygon 3603 3/8" ID (5/8" OD) Clear Tubing?
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The swiftech tubing is great. I use tons of it. Never had an issue
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