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Old June 8, 2011, 04:33 PM
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EK uses low grade recycled copper (if it can be even classified as copper). However that is not the problem. The problem is the application of the platting. there is no such thing as 100% copper block unless you have it made custom. At this point, Eddy is correct, you need to run an anticorrosive with his low quality platted blocks.

I switched to H2O + silver awhile back and In will never use a anticorrosive again. Just tired having to do a complete tear down every 2 months.
What the hell does anti-corrosive fluid have to do with tearing down your loop every 2 months? Nothing. Having the anti-corrosive should make your loop last LONGER as it acts as a biocide as well. I think you're thinking of dyes potentially clogging up your blocks...

As far as I'm concerned, warranties are just about the same manufacturer wide. You must pay shipping to them at least; must wait for them to receive it, then send you one back - and all of them will give you a little friction returning something if it isn't 100% clear it is material defect. I have not dealt with a SINGLE tech company that doesn't deal with RMA's in this fashion outside of my local computer shops that also offer (for more money) direct replacement plans.

You guys must be living in some fantasy RMA land...

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Old June 8, 2011, 05:03 PM
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Had Corsair and IBM do an RMA for me in the past without even an invoice to prove when I bought it. Paid both ways, but I would have to say that was the best i got. Most of the time I pay one-way...I have never had to pay both ways ever.

Better to go with a block though that is more compatible with various coolants so that i will hopefully avoid the RMA process altogether.
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Ethelyn Glycol is HIGHLY toxic. Would never use it in a loop. Get a leak, animals lick it up, animals die.
and having a cat in my household is really the #1 reason i need to use a silver coil!!
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Old June 8, 2011, 06:50 PM
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Not all anticorrosives act like a biocide; most non toxic antifreeze does not. Any mixed coolant can be thought as a solution. Todays water cooling loops do a great job seperating solutions. Especially any injector plate blocks. The more stress your system and loop, the faster the coolant will seperate. Anticorrosive will end up being a gooey mass in your blocks. If you clean your gear well, distilled water will last much longer, but does need at least one tear down per year.
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as it stands now, it looks the same as it did 8 weeks ago , -what to do with my block's ?

- likely open them in July ,a day or two for a complete removal check and put system back together if nothing gets broken or a bad\cut o ring happens[during mail strike]- 3 block's - mb and gpu's ,and if no issues are found , what happens if I can't show pic's to get a rma to copper- then comes dec. and I see flakes in my res.?
-not going to do the block check once a month. I don't care what block's look like ,but flaking and leaks from a gpu o ring being under mined - is a big concern
-a call\request should have gone out to any people[apr.] with lets say bad plating\copper\missing plating etc on EK parts ,had them rma ASAP ,then had those samples sent in for the testing , not a unknown batch\samples .THEN give a report.

from what I understand rma's were not issued to everyone with plating issues , so many failing block's or a larger sample could have been acquired for testing. as more than one process\batch could be failing here. plating flaking \discoloration on some ,copper causing plating failures on others ,coolant on some,normal QC failures on others.

-all I can say I'm really ,really pissed at the thought of ripping this system down again for more rma's ,

-leaking block rma re & re
-step up from 570 to 580's[almost 90 days] re & re -my fault ,on testing maxed the 570's 1280mb of vram. and deemed them to be crap.
-rma AX1200 -install tx 850 ,reinstall psu
-system is now only fully operational from may ,from dec.26-2010 lol.
have a new cpu 370 on my desk to replace my XTand don't really want to install it until the EK block's get sorted .
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Old June 9, 2011, 07:34 AM
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Not all anticorrosives act like a biocide; most non toxic antifreeze does not. Any mixed coolant can be thought as a solution. Todays water cooling loops do a great job seperating solutions. Especially any injector plate blocks. The more stress your system and loop, the faster the coolant will seperate. Anticorrosive will end up being a gooey mass in your blocks. If you clean your gear well, distilled water will last much longer, but does need at least one tear down per year.
I highly doubt what you're saying is correct other than you're right in your comment that not all anti-corrosives act as a biocide - however, I was specifically mentioning a mix of glycol (which could be either ethylene or propylene based).

Actually it's just not correct what you're saying. If you're mixing things properly, the amount of glycol you use in your loops is extremely small compared to the overall amount of water. There is no way that the friction coefficient of glycol in this case is high enough to resist mixing back in and continuing through the loop with the water even if by chance it did temporarily separate after your injector plate. .... this is just NOT true what you're saying.
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Once again, people are stating opinions as facts in this thread. I'm going to ask for proof.
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Once again, people are stating opinions as facts in this thread. I'm going to ask for proof.
Ethelyn Glycol is poisonous. Fact. My wife is a vet and has seen animals die from ingesting it.
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Ethelyn Glycol is poisonous. Fact. My wife is a vet and has seen animals die from ingesting it.
found my best forum buddie lol! pm your way,pooch is old+limpin and got q's

err,back on subject. yes,it is bad. pooch almost crossed the river after drinking some when young
they gave him loads and truck loads of peroxide and tru it out.
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Old June 9, 2011, 06:56 PM
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Well, I think its safe to say Eddy (EK) can keep his junk copper, I don't think I'll ever pick up an EK product now.

Distilled Water ALL my water-cooling life... From my Cather Storm G5 to my current Swiftech GTZ's, ZERO issues.
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