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Old November 1, 2007, 07:43 PM
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Have you come up with an install plan yet?

The reason I'm asking is that the integrated res rads are longer than a standard rad which might affect your ability to make it fit.

Swiftech has some really good measurements available on their website which will give you a good idea of the extra length.

I'm also not sure how well the integrated res does when it comes to mounting it horizontal.......

I'm not saying that it wouldn't be a good choice, just that you should double check all of your homework before going with that option.
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Old November 1, 2007, 11:31 PM
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Have you come up with an install plan yet?

The reason I'm asking is that the integrated res rads are longer than a standard rad which might affect your ability to make it fit.

Swiftech has some really good measurements available on their website which will give you a good idea of the extra length.

I'm also not sure how well the integrated res does when it comes to mounting it horizontal.......

I'm not saying that it wouldn't be a good choice, just that you should double check all of your homework before going with that option.
The plan is to mount it on the back of the case using the radbox. Seeing as I have no PSU up top, theres basically unlimited space above the radbox/fan hole. Getting the tubing into the case is my only real concern I guess as the barbs will be near the bottom, however the pre-drilled holes are around there anyways, so hopefully the tubes will bend enough to go through.

I have no plans of mounting it horizontal. If I ever have a case where that's possible, I'd probably use a separate res as there would most likely be tons of space.

I'll measure it out later today though (1:20AM now).
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Old November 18, 2007, 12:43 PM
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Well as Christmas slowly approaches...

I've been wondering about watercooling my chipset too. The Swiftech MCW30 is only $25 so why not? But if it's going to add too much restriction to the loop (D-TEK dB-1 pump), then maybe not.

If I was to add it, I suppose the loop would be:
Rad/Res > Pump > CPU > Chipset > Rad/Res

For fans, since some new ones came out, would either of these work better than Yates on the Swiftech Rad? Both are rated at much lower DBA and apparently have more pressure.
NCIX.com - Buy Scythe Ultra Kaze 120MM High Static Pressure Silent Fan 38MM 1000RPM 44.4CFM 19.8DBA - DFS123812L-1000 In Canada.
NCIX.com - Buy Noctua NF-P12-1300 120MM Ultra Quiet Cooling Fan 1100-1300RPM 63-92M3/H 12.6-19.8DBA Molex - NF-P12-1300 In Canada.

So, yes or no to the chipset block and which fans?

EDIT: I think I'll probably grab the MCP355 pump instead. Using "MartinsWaterCoolingFlowRateEstimatorv1_7b" the dB-1 would only give me 0.94GPM and the MCP355 gives me 1.4GPM. I hear it's best to keep it >1.0GPM.

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If you look at heat dissipation graphs for radiators and waterblocks, their curves tend to flatten out quickly beyond the 1.0 gpm mark. I'd try to avoid the chipset cooler if at all possible. Perhaps a good aftermarket air cooler, if the stock sink isn't up to par?

I'm looking really hard at those Noctuas, myself. It all depends on whether the fans will be visible or not. I found the 1200rpm YL's to have a better sound than the NF-S12's, but if these new Noctua's can be pulled down to 900rpm, while still maintaining those kind of numbers, that's definitely worth considering, in my books.
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If you look at heat dissipation graphs for radiators and waterblocks, their curves tend to flatten out quickly beyond the 1.0 gpm mark. I'd try to avoid the chipset cooler if at all possible. Perhaps a good aftermarket air cooler, if the stock sink isn't up to par?

I'm looking really hard at those Noctuas, myself. It all depends on whether the fans will be visible or not. I found the 1200rpm YL's to have a better sound than the NF-S12's, but if these new Noctua's can be pulled down to 900rpm, while still maintaining those kind of numbers, that's definitely worth considering, in my books.
I don't really mind the looks of Noctua fans (seeing as I have 2 on my HSF), doesn't quite match my theme of black and blue though. I have the Noctua NC-U6 on my chipset already but the 60x15mm Panaflow on it vibrates and is kinda noisy. Without the fan it gets quite warm.
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Well, I just can't decide To get watercooling or not...

I have an idea though, but I'm not sure if its feasible or not.
Is it possible to mount a fan to the rear of my case and then attach that fan to the radiator without using a Radbox?

Something like this, excuse my poor drawing:



The fan attached to the case would push into the rad and the fan up top would pull. I would drill 2 holes beneath the case fan for the barbs to pass through into the case.

I have measured and it does seem feasible, but I'm not sure how I'd mount it all (type of screws and what not), and if having the fans in that kind of configuration would effect performance. I could always put 2 fans on the back just to make it look even.

I was also thinking, the bottom fan could be 38mm and the top 25mm, and try sticking the top one on the "front" side, but then there would only be 13mm in front of it from the case.

The main reason behind all this is because even with the radbox, I don't think my DVI-VGA adapter + VGA cable would fit anymore so I couldn't have my dual-monitor setup, unless again I do a 3-fan setup or a funky 2-fan.
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seems like it might look weird at first then once u look at the craftmanship it would porb look sweet
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You should definitely watercool. Also, the ResRAD, on a RADBOX, fits perfectly on the back of any case. plus, the holes pre-made into your 900 will work great with the ResRAD. I just installed one on my TJ09 on the back, with the holes in the same place as on the 900, and it was tight, but fit great, and no kinks. Plus it looks DAMN good. I will post pics later tonight! Also, it allows full access to the DVI ports on the back of the computer.
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You should definitely watercool. Also, the ResRAD, on a RADBOX, fits perfectly on the back of any case. plus, the holes pre-made into your 900 will work great with the ResRAD. I just installed one on my TJ09 on the back, with the holes in the same place as on the 900, and it was tight, but fit great, and no kinks. Plus it looks DAMN good. I will post pics later tonight! Also, it allows full access to the DVI ports on the back of the computer.
Look forward to seeing that.

Got another question too, is the MCP355 noticeably louder than the MCP350? 32dBA vs 26dBA is quite a difference I'd think.
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Not sure about the pump noise, my MCP655 is nice a quiet. I have my OC down a little cause it's still a new board, but I know this CPU will do 3.2 easy, just got to work on the voltage.
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