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Old August 22, 2007, 12:24 AM
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Default don't like the Swiftech micro reservoir

I am thinking of using the D-Tech 5.25 reservoir instead. http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...-Tek%20Customs

What do you guys think of this res? and will the barbs that came with my swiftech 20-220 Ultra fit this res?

Here is my kit http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...cture=Swiftech

Has anyone used this D-Tech Res? I would really like some feed back on it.

I don't like the micro res for one the intake and outtake are right next to one another why not just have a (inline) res. This seem a little lame to me. I like the 5.25 drive bay res well due to the fact that it can be stored in a drive bay all nice and tidy like and also the intake/outtake are separated for each other which to me would be more efficient in a cooling system.

One other question I am currious about the lian li v2000b that is equipped with a Koolance water cooling system. I am kind of pissed off that with all the money I invested in this that I didn't know about that case.
Well actually I wasn't planning water cooling until no ing heat sink would fit in my case so I was forced to go with water. Anyway I noticed this Lian Li/Koolance case. What do you guys think of that water system? More specific the res/pump/temp read out 5.25 drive bay unit? Obviously the 3 - 120 mm fan rad is kick ass but what about the comparison to the Swiftech 20 - 220 would you say that the 20-220 would get better results then that Koolance system?


Just curious.
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Old August 22, 2007, 11:31 AM
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I personally never liked the Bay res style. I think it's weak. And from what ppls says, the MCREs is way better. But if you feel like it would suit your needs, then go for it!

As for the Lian-Li cases that comes with built in watercooling, i would not touch this at all. Not only is it expensive but it uses small tubing, it does NOT come with a CPU block or any other blocks (Gotta purchase them separately), weak pump, small res etc... it's not optimized for overclcoked Quad cores IMO. Hell, i wouldn't be surprised if no overclocking was possible on dual cores with such watercooling equipment. You are 100 times way better to go with the Swiftech H20 kit.

PS: It's D-Tek and not D-Tech.
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Old August 22, 2007, 12:10 PM
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Those D-TEK bay reservoirs are not available at this time iirc.

Go for the Danger Den one if you want a bay res.
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Old August 22, 2007, 12:30 PM
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Technically, you don't need a reservoir to close the loop. It is stricly there to add liquid to the loop as needed. A T-line does the same too. Actually a reservoir - whatever model it is - helps in "cooling" the liquid.

As for the micro-res, I've installed 3 of them. There is no issue with the inlet and outlet being so close to each other, since Swiftech added an angled section just above the inlet, creating a circular liquid motion. If air enters the reservoir, it will follow the motion and rise past the angled section, eventually reaching the top of the reservoir.

It is a very good design, actually. Very simple, in a small size that is quite effective.
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Old August 22, 2007, 12:50 PM
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Regarding the Koolance kit: It's not THAT bad. I've actually got a Q6600 at 3.6 Ghz and an 8800GTS cooled by their 330 waterblock and a little EXOS-2, with fan speeds set low. A triple rad and more powerful pump will only improve things.

As far as their fan controller/water pump combo is concerned, it's actually one of the system's high points. It can pull the 2000rpm Koolance fans down to inaudible, vary the speed according to temperature (or manually), and doesn't require any software interface. The system uses a DDC+ pump, so pump strength isn't an issue. True, you can't run 1/2" tubing, but I think the adequate-ness of 3/8" tubing is fairly well documented by this point. The weak point is probably the CPU block (I have no arguments about the recent review here on it), but I can at least vouch for it's ability to the handle a quad-core to moderate OC's.

Having said all that, will you save money and get better temperatures with the Swiftech kit? Almost certainly. But if you DO have the cash to burn, at least make sure you get the 1000-series, not the 700-series.
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Old August 22, 2007, 06:11 PM
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Hey thanks all ton you guys for making me feel better about my gear. I have been studying it and have now installed the pump rad and res. I have come to really like how I have installed the res. I will provide pictures after I get this beast finished.

As always I appreciate the input as I respect all the knowledge and experience everyone here has to contribute.
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Nonononono. We want pics now. We want to see this beast being built!

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Ok you got it!

The Water pump is installed. I decided to go with the that location due to it being inline with the access hole above it also something nice about installing these components in this case is the holes already there. All I had to do was use a large drill bit to make the hole a little bigger so to mount the pump. Very easy install and perfect fit.



Being that I like semetry I had a tough time finding a way to install the reservoir, hence my contemplating a 5.25 drive bay res. Well after hours of studying this I came up with what you see here. I was able to center the res by manipulating the mounting bracket. I am going to pick up one more so to mount it on the other side of the case just to make the install a little more solid. Other then that I am very happy with the location and install of the res.



I am not all that content with the way the barbs are situated being that they are pointed 180 degrees away from the case. I will be picking up 90 degree barbs later on so that they are pointing straight up which will alleviate some of the curvature that this set has.

*Note* The hoses in this picture are cheap hose that I bought just to use for the mock up and to get lengths. The real hose will be used once I have the lengths figured out.

*** I welcome any suggestion here.***



A couple more res mount pictures.




So let me know what you guys think so far.
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Old August 22, 2007, 07:46 PM
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Looks great so far!!!

I'm not clear on how you think the 90 deg barbs are going to help you.....

If you point them upwards it's probably going to kink your hoses, and if you point them downwards it's going to create an awfully large loop at the back of the case..........
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A 45 deg pointed downwards might work if there was such a thing..... :)
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