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Old July 23, 2009, 03:15 AM
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Default F1 X-240 vs MCR320 and EK Multioption vs Swiftech Micro Res

As the title says, is there a big difference? Or will the performance be similar.

The cost including fans would be about the same, except one is a 2x120mm rad, the other is a 3x120mm rad.

Noise is a factor here, and I'm assuming less fans = less noise, correct?

X-240 + 2x Gelid Wings = $110 (X-240 will be BNIB, second hand)

MCR320 + 3x Gelid Wings = $110

Which combination will be better? My planned parts;

Swiftech GTZ
MCW-60R2
MCP655
EK Res

It will be cooling...

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GTX275 OR 4890, will OC (TBA, have not bought yet).

As for the reservoirs, any huge difference? Difference in cost this time.

EK would be around $30 (I've seen this retail for almost $60)
Swiftech would be around $25.

Worth spending the extra $5?

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Old July 23, 2009, 04:43 AM
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If you have the room, go for the triple rad. Everything equal, the Feser may have the edge over the MCR, but it's not a big difference, so raw surface area is going to win out in this scenario. Yes, three fans will make more noise than two, but you'll have to turn up the two two fans quite a bit louder before they'll produce the same cooling effect that the three fans do. Again, surface area is the biggest factor here.

There really isn't much of a difference between the reservoirs, although if the EK reservoir doesn't have the centre divider (anti-cyclone insert), you'll need to get one, or jam a old credit card in the center, or else it'll probably start cycloning while you're trying to bleed it. No issues like that for the Swiftech reservoir. But a lot of people like the look of cylinder reservoirs, so it's your call there.
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Old July 23, 2009, 05:40 AM
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In my experience the Multires is a bit harder to find a place to mount it as the Microres can fit damn near anywhere.

As for the vortexing, just turn your pump on low while filling, once it's all the way full it shouldn't cyclone enough to cause a problem(unless you use one of the smaller versions). The price for the multires is different cause there are a lot of sizes and cylindrical acrylic isn't cheap:)
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Old July 23, 2009, 10:20 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys.

I think I'll be going for the MCR320 then. Just can't beat it's bang for buck.

As for the res, it's the 150 REV.2 variation. After some hard research, it seems that not even the REV.2 fixes the vortex problem. I guess I'll be going with the Swfitech Micro then.

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As for the res.. Swiftech is a pretty good choice, EK Reses are very good, but at least 90% of the time I see them getting mounted on the mobo tray, which if you don't have a big case, or mobo covers up space, forget about it. Plus the Swiftech comes with brackets and hardware that make it easy to mount the res almost anywhere.

As for the Rad, either way is good, I think the Feser is a deeper rad so with high cfm fans, it'll probably cool better, but the mcr320 is a triple rad and that extra space always helps cool the rad. I say for the rad, if you have space to mount the triple rad, go for it.. if not.. the Feser works for you..

For the fans, well.. my friend I've been drolling on the Gelid fans myself for weeks now, while they would work good on cases, I might still suggest to get some Scyte S-Flex or even Yate Loons man.. I know you're mostly interested in the fact that Gelid blades can be taken off easily, still better fans on rads work better..
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Actually sir before you miss out.. This one just went for sale.. Some more Watercooling bits

You can get a brand new in box MCR 320 for like $60.. I would give a +++++ to the seller..
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Well I could get an MCR320 Brand New from DC for $59. PM NCIX + Free shipping. (Which is what I did )

I just thought I might be getting a stellar deal on both the X-240 + EK Res cause;

Res Retails for $40 or so, I pay $30 (No Anti-Cyclone attatchment)

Rad Retails for $100, I pay $70.

Both of these are BNIB. However, it seems the MCR320 is still a better buy over the X-240 because I do in fact have the room for it (rear mounting P182).

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Old July 23, 2009, 02:47 PM
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am happy with the Swiftech parts I have now, no complaints so far. Have the double rad though will see once add in the second vga block if it handles the heat load with fans on 7 volt still.
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Well I could get an MCR320 Brand New from DC for $59. PM NCIX + Free shipping. (Which is what I did )

I just thought I might be getting a stellar deal on both the X-240 + EK Res cause;

Res Retails for $40 or so, I pay $30 (No Anti-Cyclone attatchment)

Rad Retails for $100, I pay $70.

Both of these are BNIB. However, it seems the MCR320 is still a better buy over the X-240 because I do in fact have the room for it (rear mounting P182).
Are you sure sir.. The cheapest is NCIX @ 67.00, and DC doesn't even show free shipping on the product on their site.. Oh well it's your choice. About the triple, I think a Rad box should do it, hopefully your P182 is not a mirror finish, you could mod it to fit the top..
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Old July 23, 2009, 04:16 PM
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I was thinking about modding it too...

But I'm just not mentally ready for that yet.

And PM being price match. NCIX has the free shipping $10GC.

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