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Old August 30, 2008, 04:00 PM
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Mobos support PCI-Express at 16x times the speed often on only one slot, the other graphics dedicated slot often doing 4x. Some do 16x on both. Gotta watch for it and find info. Naturally then, two cards on a 16x/4x setup won't perform as well as two on 16x.

The 1x reference speed is what drives most PCI slots (audio, USB, Firewire... whatever other card you might fit in there).

Two 4850 in Crossfire seems to be an excellent deal. You can also do 4850 combined to 3850/3870/4870, but you'll have to research the subject. I read an article on Firingsquad.com about that technology from AMD (ATI) where you can now mix different cards starting from generation 4000 or 3000 cards for a Crossfire setup, without them having to be identical chipsets and/or speed, but where GPU memory should be a match in sizes. Again, support from the mobo to be purchased has to be confirmed.

Some mobos support 3 video cards, and others go up to four ($$$).
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Old August 30, 2008, 04:37 PM
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after reading sky's review of the 4850 i still think the 8800 gt would be better. the young fella wont be doing crossfire of a 4850 because a single card tops his budget. though the 4850 does perform better, according to the review it doesnt OC very well, where the GT does, so after overclocking i'm going to assume that the gt will perform better than the marginally overclocked 4850. what do you think of my assumption?
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after reading sky's review of the 4850 i still think the 8800 gt would be better. the young fella wont be doing crossfire of a 4850 because a single card tops his budget. though the 4850 does perform better, according to the review it doesnt OC very well, where the GT does, so after overclocking i'm going to assume that the gt will perform better than the marginally overclocked 4850. what do you think of my assumption?
But, doesn't the 8800GT run really hot, even at stock clocks? That might be because it has a single slot cooler, so maybe if he buys an aftermarket cooler for the 8800GT, then it'll perform better than the 4850.. Just by a little bit.
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ah well, even if it runs a touch slower, the GT is almost 80 bucks cheeper.

considering that crossfire on that board is a bad idea anyway i think we'll look for the best single card we can get. the 9800 series cards are pretty damn cheep these days, even saw a bfg 9800gtx OC for less than 200. pretty sure it would kick the crap out of a 4850.
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I wouldn't get a 8800 GT if you can for pretty much the same price get a 9800 GT is performs better then the 8800 GT and is cooler. The 9800 GT is pretty much on par with the 4850.
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I wouldn't get a 8800 GT if you can for pretty much the same price get a 9800 GT is performs better then the 8800 GT and is cooler. The 9800 GT is pretty much on par with the 4850.
How is the 9800GT better than the 8800GT? They're both the same, it's just that it's a different naming scheme. However, if you're lucky, then you can get a 9800GT with 55nm GPU, which will run cooler and cheaper. But I heard that's the luck of the draw.

@OP. I didn't read the whole thread, but if you're going to get a graphics card under $200, then I say get a 4850 or 9800GTX.
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The prices for the ATI 4850 seem to be around $190's, and the only time you gonna get a price of $170 is when they go on sale, either the price is reduced or they have a mail in rebate.

Best bet is to look for deals, like the one that was linked to futureshop like the 9800+ for $170. I also do have an XFX 8800GTS 512mb alpha dog edition, the one that SKY reviewed couple of months back, it was one hell of a card few months back, imo its still a descent card if you see. We can work on a good deal. Its used, but its in mint condition.

Only problem you'll have buying it online is that you'd have to pay taxes on top, and adding shipping charges on to it, really makes it over the budget, that doesn't happen all the time, unless you pick something not too expensive.

But I'll still stick with the choice of a 4850 card, if you can get it for under $200 with taxes (original price and no rebates), your getting hek of a card, at the moment its the best bang for the buck.
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How is the 9800GT better than the 8800GT? They're both the same, it's just that it's a different naming scheme. However, if you're lucky, then you can get a 9800GT with 55nm GPU, which will run cooler and cheaper. But I heard that's the luck of the draw.

@OP. I didn't read the whole thread, but if you're going to get a graphics card under $200, then I say get a 4850 or 9800GTX.
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thanks for the advice guys, i think we've decided on a 9800 gtx. According to reviews, it runs just a bit better than the 4850 and its on for 180 in price compare right now and its going to take about a month or so for him to come up with the cash, so i hope i can find it on sale for him even a little cheeper than that.

Sorry guys, i talked to him about getting a used one but he didnt warm to the idea. you know how young guys are, they want everything new, and "right now"... thanks for the offers though!
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