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Old June 16, 2008, 10:46 AM
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Umm, I hate to point anyone away from this site, but also check out Anandtech's GTX280 numbers vs 9800GX2. I wouldn't pay an extra $200 for that slim an increase in FPS. Nvidia knows this, so they are discontinuing the GX2.

The sweet spot right now for price/performance ratio for Nvidia would seem to be 8800GT or GTS512 in SLI. In my opinion anyway. I'm looking forward to the numbers on the new ATI cards.
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Great job on the review Sky. After reading all the opinions of people who skipped to the end of the reviews, I wasn't expecting much. Even though I can guarantee I won't be buying this card (at least not in the near future), it does excite me to hear what Nvidia is bringing to the table, and I'm looking forward to seeing how that translates into a midrange card.
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Old June 16, 2008, 12:30 PM
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hmm. what the hell is nvidia thinking?

$700 price tag
as hot as a blow dryer
noisy as a dust buster
new naming scheme to add to their convoluted line up
trumps and discontinues their newest flagship product

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What are they thinking?

1) Currently the fastest single-card solution available, arguably beating out even the GX2.
2) Temps are already in the 80's, still a dual-slot form-factor, which doesn't give much leeway to make the fan go slower
3) That's what aftermarket cooling is for
4) They've stated that they intend to simplify their naming schemes, this looks like a step in the right direction. (Although EVGA looks like they're trying to undo that with all their versions)
5) And how is that different than what they did for the 7950GX2? Or what ATI is likely going to be doing with their 3870X2? Anybody buying dual-GPU solutions should automatically resign themselves to that happening - I know I did.

That aside, great review. Covering all the bases, laid out your testing methodology well, brought a good selection of cards to compare the GTX280 with. And it's always great to see the minimum frames as well, which REALLY makes this card shine. This card is definitely a prime candidate for me to grab this summer. There have been lots of people complaining about Nvidia doing nothing but refreshing old stuff and pushing driver-dependent SLI solutions, so to see Nvidia come out with this beast is breath of fresh air, cost, heat and noise issues be damned. And the overclocking headroom, with just the stock heatsink... SWEET!

Also good to have confirmation that we'll be seeing 4000-series reviews in the future too. Will you be testing them in Xfire? I much prefer single solutions, but a compelling enough performance by a pair of 4870's could still change my mind.
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Old June 16, 2008, 01:04 PM
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ATI's X2 graphics cards are not like Nvidia's GX2 cards in any way. The X2 is ATI's flagship and they are released BEFORE the core is obsolete. Nvidia releases their GX2's to use up their soon to be obsolete cores.
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The GX2 is a good deal though..I mean, under $500 and in most cases close to the same performance as this monster card, while using less power and creating less heat.... Price to performance, the GX2 is king.
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Yea Id agree that right now the GX2 is easily better value for money. I guess it all depends on what happens with future games and drivers.
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The folks who need to have the best-of-the-best will be looking to buy this card no matter what the price (assuming of course that it blows away the new ATI cards), but us normal folks (speaking for myself of course) will be looking for a bit more value for our dollar.
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260 might be a better value for me, seem to have what I want without the price. we'll see.....

Excellent posting that CUDA link. I didnít even know they had that.
Been downloading docs from there all day.
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Well I am not overly impressed. To be a new series and in most cases is only a small margin better the the old gen isn't that great. This is making me even more happy that I bought a crossfire mobo. For price/performance ATI sounds like it is going to be king. I don't care if some one has 3 extra frames than me for an extra 300 bucks.
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