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Old November 2, 2017, 11:32 AM
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Correct. Working on borrowed time.
Certainly understand. I really did appreciate the percent difference values as a summary. Very helpful I think for quickly assessing the gain or compromise for a given card.

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Correct. Working on borrowed time.
No kidding. Your photos are dated just a few days ago from posting time.

In regards to the product. I was hoping it'd bring 1070 prices down, which it hasn't yet. There are 1080's cheaper than the 1070ti's right now which is weird to me. This makes me think your conclusion is right on spot with "a great but late entry" - the card is in a weird market space at the moment.

I was surprised to see the sound level being similar to the standard 1070 at full tilt.
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It is a very interesting card. I have to agree with Steve over at Gamer Nexus in thinking this is more of a strategic play on Nvidia's part than a product play. With the pricing being so close between the 1070, 1070 Ti and 1080 it gets people talking more about Nvidia cards and the Vega 56 kinda disappears out of the spotlight.
Given that you can OC the 1070 Ti to equal to if not better performance than a stock 1080, you do have to think what card should be phased out? Personally I think they should phase out the 1080. The only caveat to my thinking is of course pricing. Where will pricing be in a few weeks or a few months?
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Current listed pricing feels right when compared to Vega 56 cards especially when you consider that more than half of the available Vega SKUs are a brand I swore off of a decade ago......

But yeah... there's a few 1080 SKUs bumping up against the currently listed 1070ti prices so either those lower end 1080 SKUs are going to have to disappear, or 1070ti prices are going to have to come down $20.
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Vega56 disappeared from the spotlight what? A week after launch?
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Vega56 disappeared from the spotlight what? A week after launch?
Availability and their silly bundling scheme(s) pretty much stuck the fork in it..........
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I think there was a lot of blow-back from regular enthusiasts and even AMD fans about that launch. In all my years in this industry I have never seen such an unmitigated mess except maybe the NVIDIA nForce launch or the original Phenom.

It was like one of those David Copperfield specials that endlessly pimps a magic trick where the whole city of New York gets magically teleported to another dimension on live TV.....except when the program actually airs Mr. Copperfield simply takes a New York City postcard and simply flushes it down the toilet on live TV. Drum roll.....TADA!
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I think there was a lot of blow-back from regular enthusiasts and even AMD fans about that launch. In all my years in this industry I have never seen such an unmitigated mess except maybe the NVIDIA nForce launch or the original Phenom.

It was like one of those David Copperfield specials that endlessly pimps a magic trick where the whole city of New York gets magically teleported to another dimension on live TV.....except when the program actually airs Mr. Copperfield simply takes a New York City postcard and simply flushes it down the toilet on live TV. Drum roll.....TADA!
A very good analogy! I found Vega very deflating and I was really rooting for AMD in that case. It would have been so nice to have something worthwhile to pair with a Ryzen or Threadripper build.
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Yeah, but it's not like Nvidia is much better. To paraphrase anandtech, NVIDIA is pitching the 1070 Ti as an upgrade for the legendary GTX 970, which launched at a paltry $329 US. I waited and got mine for $389 Cdn, plus tax.

Last night, spurred on by my growing bitcoin balance, I was looking at various retailers and a 1070 Ti is $650 plus tax. I know prices are still inflated by the mining crazy, but that is ~66% percent more expensive. Wasn't the x70 series suppose to be upper mainstream?

Bitcoin will need to rise a LOT more if I am to get a new card for free-ish.
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Unfortunately pricing on mid/high GPUs has been well north of $500 for quite some time. What used to be silly high pricing reserved solely for dual GPU/needs-a-mini-nuclear-plant e-peen kit is now the norm for high(er) end enthusiast cards. I paid something like $500 for my GTX 680, and that was really a stretch. I have a hard time justifying forking out $800 (after shipping and taxes) for something that isn't a flagship card.

I dunno.... between hardware pricing and the scourge of console ports, it's really starting to feel like somebody out there is trying to finally cash in on their short sell position for PC gaming.......
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