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Old June 29, 2016, 08:31 AM
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I might just run across the border for one of these cards for my HTPC. $199 US translates to $258 CAD. Even with a transaction charge from my CC, that works out to MUCH cheaper than any local retailer.

*EDIT* Sorry! Forgot to mention that this was yet another excellent and in depth review. I appreciate the thoroughness, and I pretty excited to see AMD competing again. I hope to see this redefine the market pricing across all cards.

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Polaris is a huge disappointment in terms of power efficiency (perf/watt). Nvidia's Pascal is way more efficient and mid range GP106 is going to run all over Polaris in terms of perf/watt. The only saving grace is solid DX12 performance. The way I see it AMD will not be able to get back to historical market share levels of 35% which is required to be financially viable in the GPU business. AMD has got into a habit of overhyping and underdelivering and this product follows the same pattern. I think AMD has also been hurt due to choosing a inferior GF 14LPP compared to TSMC 16FF+. Nvidia will continue to dominate the GPU market and rake in the money while AMD's GPU business will find it difficult to break even leave alone be profitable.
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Thanks SKYMTL for another great in depth review. And on "vacation"? Some vacation! As someone who is firmly planted in the NVIDIA camp these days I can say I am very pleased that the RX480 looks as good as this review makes it out to be. That might seem like an odd pairing of thought in that sentence but I have been in the NVIDIA camp for a long time simply because IMO they were just the better option. But this new line of cards from AMD could at least make me pause when building a system to say which card is actually the better choice. That hasn't crossed my mind in a long while. Good times for PC gamers, GPU buyers. I will still be remaining "Green" for a good while yet since I have a G-Sync monitor to pay off but very glad the RX480 doesn't look like a flop.

EDIT: just adding a quick comment here because Fragman got in ahead of me. My comment about the RX480 looking good is based on the FPS performance. Power efficiency has never been important to me in my gaming rig, not saying it isn't important, it just isn't to me. I realise it could be a much more important factor to others.

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For me the cdn price $330-$380 + 12%tax in BC kills the hype with the fact that FC4 an intended NVidia game however traditionally dominated by amd the rx480 chokes against the r9 390 non x. To be a clear winner it needed to beat the GTX970 consistently and close in with the 390x, sorry but I don't see this as a banner day in the rx 480's release, again the hype train gets a flat.

At $240-250 cdn this would have been a good day but it's not.

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Feel bad for those scammed into selling their 9xx gpus for next to nothing.
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For me the cdn price $330-$380 + 12%tax in BC kills the hype with the fact that FC4 an intended NVidia game however traditionally dominated by amd the rx480 chokes against the r9 390 non x. To be a clear winner it needed to beat the GTX970 consistently and close in with the 390x, sorry but I don't see this as a banner day in the rx 480's release, again the hype train gets a flat.
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Polaris is a huge disappointment in terms of power efficiency (perf/watt). Nvidia's Pascal is way more efficient and mid range GP106 is going to run all over Polaris in terms of perf/watt. The only saving grace is solid DX12 performance. The way I see it AMD will not be able to get back to historical market share levels of 35% which is required to be financially viable in the GPU business. AMD has got into a habit of overhyping and underdelivering and this product follows the same pattern. I think AMD has also been hurt due to choosing a inferior GF 14LPP compared to TSMC 16FF+. Nvidia will continue to dominate the GPU market and rake in the money while AMD's GPU business will find it difficult to break even leave alone be profitable.
1. The RX 480 was never designed to compete against Pascal's GTX 1070/1080.
2. Pascal's GP106 is not released yet and it will barely compete with the 980Ti or even the 980. (That's what the 1080/1070 were for)
3. The RX480 overclocked performance is quite good placing it at Nano/980 performance
4. There doesn't appear to be yield issues unlike Pascal meaning that stock and inventory should be much more readily available.
5. Nvidia will not continue to dominate the GPU market (that's a very biased comment)
6. Once we see non-reference or AIB versions we will get a much performance out of the box overall and overclocking should be improved.
7. These are BETA drivers and do not reflect overall mature driver performance and optimization.
8. These are already selling quite well and indicate a huge demand.
9. It uses less power and is cooler than a 290(X) or a 390(X) while providing similar performance.
10. It beats a GTX 970 by at least 5-7% in DX11.
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OK, derailed then to keep it anally correct.
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Place in Halifax wants a gouging $399 for the RX 480. But they have a sale of $379

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1. The RX 480 was never designed to compete against Pascal's GTX 1070/1080.
Agreed. But still perf/watt is a major problem as Rx 480 draws close to GTX 1070 power but the GTX 1070 is 40-50% faster.

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2. Pascal's GP106 is not released yet and it will barely compete with the 980Ti or even the 980. (That's what the 1080/1070 were for)
Even if we assume a 1280 sp GP106 with 192 bit memory bus it should easily beat GTX 970 and probably match GTX 980 while drawing 100w power. The Rx 480 is drawing above 160w power and in fact tomshardware are saying it is overdrawing from PCI-E mainboard slot (very risky thing to do)

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...10,4616-9.html
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3. The RX480 overclocked performance is quite good placing it at Nano/980 performance.
The overclocked Rx 480 cards are going to come with 6 pin + 6 pin and 6 pin + 8 pin versions. Power consumption is going to rocket especially since GF 14LPP has now been proven to be inferior to TSMC 16FF+.

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4. There doesn't appear to be yield issues unlike Pascal meaning that stock and inventory should be much more readily available.
Yield issues with Pascal are just rumours.

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5. Nvidia will not continue to dominate the GPU market (that's a very biased comment)
Nvidia are dominating now. We have to see if AMD can recover market share.

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7. These are BETA drivers and do not reflect overall mature driver performance and optimization.
launch day performance and first impressions are crucial to long term success. Maxwell is the best example.

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8. These are already selling quite well and indicate a huge demand.
Supply seems to be good. But there is no competition yet. We have to see how Polaris sells after GP106 launches.

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9. It uses less power and is cooler than a 290(X) or a 390(X) while providing similar performance.
10. It beats a GTX 970 by at least 5-7% in DX11.
Sorry but comparing with 290X/390X is useless. Those were power monsters. AMD's competition is going to be GP106 which will be much more efficient.
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