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Old October 8, 2013, 10:28 AM
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Saw the 3D Mark benchmark sale over at steam so downloaded the new tests.
Ran Firestorm on my new card.
And then I noticed I have a really new R9 280X in my rig. Who knew?

Look how Futuremark labelled my HD 7970 -



Hope you can make that out, tis a bit fuzzy, but their system id'd my card as a new R9 280X :)

I did compare my results with others running the HD 7970 on a A10 and seems I am right in the middle of the pack. My first result with everything on default was 5461. OC'd the 7970 to 1050 Mhz and the A10 to 42X from the stock 38X (that is the 'stock OC') and improved to 5712, only a 5% performance boost. Did try it at 44X and the system rebooted on its own, and tried 1100 Mhz and hit another reboot. Have not played at all with the voltage or other settings. I'm a real nob novice at OCing.

I'm going to buy the 3D Mark 11 now while it is still on sale for $6.76. See if it ID's my card correctly.

Heh... thanks for the heads up on steam pricing... just picked up 3DMark for $9US (already had 11 from a MSI card bundle... ;) ).
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It's only 25% of the difference. Not an extra 25%.
Yes, that's what I meant, they take the lower price, then give you a bonus of 25% of the difference. Eg. if they want $100 and you find it for $80, they give you it for $80 - $5 = $75. Still the best price match I've found so far, and they ship to rural addresses for a flat $4.99.

Just wish their no-quibble return policy was more than 7 days, but such is life.
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Saw the 3D Mark benchmark sale over at steam so downloaded the new tests.
Ran Firestorm on my new card.
And then I noticed I have a really new R9 280X in my rig. Who knew?

Look how Futuremark labelled my HD 7970 -

Hope you can make that out, tis a bit fuzzy, but their system id'd my card as a new R9 280X :)
Did you get a vanilla 7970, or a 7970 Ghz?
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Old October 8, 2013, 11:11 AM
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TPU tested the MSI Gaming edition of the R9 280X and mentioned the following:

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MSI's new cooler doesn't seem to be such a great implementation for this card. While it only runs pretty hot under gaming, reaching up to 87C, which is no problem by itself, we also see very high VRM temperatures, well above 115C. This suggests that the cooler does not properly cool the voltage regulation circuitry despite having a baseplate that should do so. Its lack of proper VRM cooling caused the card to throttle in many of our non-gaming stress tests, though gaming performance seems unaffected.
weird, isn't it? you'think that MSI knows better....unless there is a glitch with the review unit...
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Did you not read the conclusion on the 280X and the Value graph?

760 is the worst possible thing you could buy right now with the 770 right behind it.
Thats why I said if they are still selling.

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Aren't all the R9 (and R7?) series cards also supported for Mantle? If there is a performance improvement over NVidia for Mantle supported titles it may be another reason to switch.
All the GCN cards support mantle. ie 7970 etc.

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Will there be a 6gb version of the 290x? If so, is this something that will be months from now, or we might see before the year end?
Most likely a 8GB version. Only time will tell
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very high VRM temperatures, well above 115C.
Or it suggests that their software VRM monitoring is FUBAR'd.....

For the record, most VRMs operate within their normal constraints up to 125C. Some designs like the ones used on ASUS' DirectCU II cards are rated to 150C.
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Old October 8, 2013, 12:22 PM
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Still much hotter than the xfx you had. I'm surprised considering that we would be used to the performance being the other way around.
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Or it suggests that their software VRM monitoring is FUBAR'd.....

For the record, most VRMs operate within their normal constraints up to 125C. Some designs like the ones used on ASUS' DirectCU II cards are rated to 150C.

Got you SKY!

Well, their last comment on the VRM "heat issue" was card throttling, which is monitored by different software.
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Or it suggests that their software VRM monitoring is FUBAR'd.....

For the record, most VRMs operate within their normal constraints up to 125C. Some designs like the ones used on ASUS' DirectCU II cards are rated to 150C.
That is their operational point, but that and when the card is set to throttle could be mutually exclusive of each other.

Still, that is one damn hot component. Would love to see these cards under the FLIR and see how hot they are in total. How much heat splash they have. They did that back in the day for NVidia cards when the 400 series was out. Would be interesting to see if they have the same thermal footprint, or one close.

Regardless of that, these coolers (XFX) look damn sexy and well constructed. XFX for a while I thought was getting away from nice designs (Had 6950's and 6850's) as those felt cheap and not well thought out (lets not forget the fan separating from one of mine). Nice to see they got that part right again.

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One advantage to these cards is that they will crossfire with their "un-re-branded" equivalents, so unlike nVidia who did not allow GTX 6xx and 7xx cards to SLi, AMD is at least allowing people to upgrade their current 7xxx cards to Crossfire for a longer period of time, so no need to scramble and find 78xx or 79xx cards to Crossfire with in the future.

And from what I know those that flashed GTX 7xx BIOSes to their nVidia cards bricked 'em.

Good review though, and I agree that the 280X is definitely a good bang-for-the-buck card.
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