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bliz May 23, 2013 08:51 AM

Could nvidia or AMD make a really extreme performance card by adding more stuff?
 
Could they already make a beast that performs 2 times better than the titan for example? just double the GPU power,add 5000 extra cuda cores,i don't know,or is it impossible at this time?

great_big_abyss May 23, 2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bliz (Post 710544)
Could they already make a beast that performs 2 times better than the titan for example? just double the GPU power,add 5000 extra cuda cores,i don't know,or is it impossible at this time?

I'm sure they could.

I think the problem is power consumption and heat output, as well as price. There are reasonable limits, I'm sure.

SKYMTL May 23, 2013 09:50 AM

Can you explain the "add" part? GPUs aren't like a set of Legos where you can just build upon previous construction. Everything from ROP throughput to memory controllers to inter-phase communications has to be perfectly balanced.

bliz May 23, 2013 10:02 AM

I don't know,i don't know anything in gpus,i mean add more transistors,the thing that will give frame rates,and if needed,double the memory bus? i don't know?

Squeetard May 23, 2013 10:06 AM

They are hitting the limits of silicone. As far as heat and clock. GPU's are massively parallel unlike CPU's so yes, you can add more transistors and make is faster. But the Titan is already a 7 billion transistor beast.
Multi GPU's on a single card is another answer but for the life of me I don't understand why they still use a crappy interface like SLI for the on board dual gpu solution. If they had a better dual GPU interface we could really rock.

SugarJ May 23, 2013 10:30 AM

But why should they? Probably 75% or more of gamers are still running 1080p screens. A GTX 660 will run any current game at that resolution with lots of eye candy.

Until you see more people adapting 4K screens, or 120 Hz becoming the norm instead of the exception, there's no reason to release anything that's tons better now. Even this new 780 is a cut down Titan, which in turn wasn't released until a year after their commercial GK110 part.

bliz May 23, 2013 10:38 AM

They could do that for metro last light :haha:

SugarJ May 23, 2013 10:46 AM

Why? The GTX780 runs Metro Last Light @2560x1440 res at an average of 49 FPS according to [H]. So at 1920x1080 it's probably more like 65-70 FPS. Anything over 35 FPS is smooth and acceptable to me.

bliz May 23, 2013 02:23 PM

Really? For me,60+ fps is smooth,35fps is damn "laggy" and i do feel a real difference between 60 and 120fps,i have 120hz but it's a small difference.

Btw,the benchmark of Linus says the 780,at 1440p,runs metro last light at 22 fps.

GeForce GTX 780 1440p Performance Review - YouTube at 3:23

what do you mean by according to [H] ????

IRQ Conflict May 23, 2013 03:03 PM

I think where most problems lie is in the minimum FPS dept. If your min never dips below 30 then your golden. If your average FPS is around 35FPS your minimum is usually going to be much less. The choppyness that can be experienced is usually to do with extreme discrepancies between the lowest and highest frame rates. Enabling vsync will rid you of that and screen tearing as long as your settings permit you to play at a min frame rate of 30.

Constantly going from 24 FPS to 70+ FPS you get a lot of dropped frames and this is where you feel the stutter (I think).


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