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Old May 24, 2013, 05:12 PM
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Thanks man. And that's the reason I said buy what you want and if you can then do so but if you can't then don't. I do agree with you that they are charging way too much for the cards and AMD is to blame for their inability to release competing cards on time. Look how long it has taken then to release the "official" 7990.
yeah it is amd to blame aswell but even if amd had an answer and the cards were sold for 500$ thats still a lot.

another thing about amd dont you ever believe that they have good price/performance because they are kind-hearted. they simply have to in order to stay competitive. the moment they have something awesome they will sell it at a ridiculous price. do u remember the price on the athlon fx?
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Old May 24, 2013, 05:34 PM
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I'm really thinking about the Evga Superclocked with the ACX cooler, that is if I can find a review for the cooler to see how it actually performs.

EVGA | Products | EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SC w/ ACX Cooler | 03G-P4-2784-KR

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Then I guess the question would be one or two of them and if the 8x PCI-E would really hold them back or not.
EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked w/ ACX Cooler 3 GB Review | techPowerUp

Cooler, but not quieter than the reference design.
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Old May 24, 2013, 05:37 PM
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yeah it is amd to blame aswell but even if amd had an answer and the cards were sold for 500$ thats still a lot.

another thing about amd dont you ever believe that they have good price/performance because they are kind-hearted. they simply have to in order to stay competitive. the moment they have something awesome they will sell it at a ridiculous price. do u remember the price on the athlon fx?
I totally agree with you regarding AMD. They have to price their stuff a certain way to stay competitive. I remember the Athlon FX days. Sadly, I made that rig right after my parents spent $3000 to get me an Intel PC. Had two rigs and looking back that was a lot money spent that I wish I didn't spend.

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EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked w/ ACX Cooler 3 GB Review | techPowerUp

Cooler, but not quieter than the reference design.
The have same noise in idle state and under full load. So ACX is the way to go for those who don't want to watercool.

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Old May 24, 2013, 06:19 PM
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i never said Amd is innocent in this. they both steadily inflated the price with every generation over the last couple of years.

the thing is when is this going to stop? the salaries have remained mostly the same in the last 10 years or so.

lets take this to something else. lets say cars. if you check the prices for cars in the same category from 10 years ago they are roughly the same
It's going to stop when Titans don't sell out everywhere and people don't have thousands to throw at gaming computers. But, as we become more PC dependant, people will want better performance and be willing to throw more money at it.

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I'm disappointed that graphics cards are costing this much these days. I am looking to upgrade, and the last time I bought a video card it was the radeon 5850, which was the second best card you could get at the time, for $280. The 5870 cost like $330. $330-550 is one hell of a jump.
5870x2 was the most expensive card, you got the third best for $280. 7950 is the third best and costs $310 or so right now. Not that big of a difference. Classic nostalgia-itis maybe

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yeah it is amd to blame aswell but even if amd had an answer and the cards were sold for 500$ thats still a lot.
So you want a card that is competitive, but costs less than $500 and offers good value... Sounds like a 7970GE

If you want AMD to "compete", you want AMD to launch more high end cards then. That means MORE $500+ video cards. Is that what you actually want? Or do you want AMD to keep doing what it is doing and Nvidia to launch less high end....
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Old May 24, 2013, 06:44 PM
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It's going to stop when Titans don't sell out everywhere and people don't have thousands to throw at gaming computers. But, as we become more PC dependant, people will want better performance and be willing to throw more money at it.



5870x2 was the most expensive card, you got the third best for $280. 7950 is the third best and costs $310 or so right now. Not that big of a difference. Classic nostalgia-itis maybe



So you want a card that is competitive, but costs less than $500 and offers good value... Sounds like a 7970GE

If you want AMD to "compete", you want AMD to launch more high end cards then. That means MORE $500+ video cards. Is that what you actually want? Or do you want AMD to keep doing what it is doing and Nvidia to launch less high end....
5870X2 is a dual GPU card which is separate from what I was talking about. The 780 is the fastest single GPU card right now, and I am saying that when I bought my 5850 the 5870 what the fastest single GPU card you could get. Big price difference.
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5870X2 is a dual GPU card which is separate from what I was talking about. The 780 is the fastest single GPU card right now, and I am saying that when I bought my 5850 the 5870 what the fastest single GPU card you could get. Big price difference.

Titan is actually the fastest single GPU So, second fastest now costs $650 then. Does that mean you MUST pay $650 to get good performance? No, a 7870 or GTX660 or something like that are still and always will be awesome value. If you're worried about price, stick to the low end. I don't think the high end is driving prices up just because it exists, personally. It just means you can pay a lot more and get a tiny bit more performance.
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Old May 24, 2013, 07:00 PM
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EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked w/ ACX Cooler 3 GB Review | techPowerUp

Cooler, but not quieter than the reference design.
I saw that review earlier today.

There is another one from Guru 3D and that one shows it being quite a bit cooler compared to the techPowerUp review.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,8.html

Ahh man now I really want one of these. But really for all those complaining about prices I just heard back from a small little store that I was hoping would have a similar price to everyone else, but nope. They came back with a price of $749 and that is the standard Evga, not even superclocked.
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I ordered the EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked 941MHZ with reference cooler from NCIX for $659 (I prefer the rear exhaust). - NCIX just raised the price of this one to $689. They also raised the price of the Acx cooler version to $689.
btw, I paid $420 for my 6800u 128mb, and $640 for my 6800GT back when they were first released. If you paid $450 for a 6800GT back then, you got a great deal
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I ordered the EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked 941MHZ with reference cooler from NCIX for $659 (I prefer the rear exhaust). - NCIX just raised the price of this one to $689. They also raised the price of the Acx cooler version to $689.
btw, I paid $420 for my 6800u 128mb, and $640 for my 6800GT back when they were first released. If you paid $450 for a 6800GT back then, you got a great deal
I paid $460...someone saw you coming as I could have gotten the 6800 Ultra for $510 but didnt want to wait for it

Personally guys I hate the look of that ACX "MSI'ish looking cooler, disappointed to find out the Classy versions will also be ACX coolers.
Anyone that does get there mitts on one (Reference version), would like to know the Max Temp with the Fan speed set manually to 50% - 60% running any DX11 Title please, idle temps with Fan at 30 - 40% as well
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I ordered the EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked 941MHZ with reference cooler from NCIX for $659 (I prefer the rear exhaust). - NCIX just raised the price of this one to $689. They also raised the price of the Acx cooler version to $689.
btw, I paid $420 for my 6800u 128mb, and $640 for my 6800GT back when they were first released. If you paid $450 for a 6800GT back then, you got a great deal

I'm actually getting disgusted with the prices on NCIX for these cards. I mean not even 2 days and they have raised the prices. Just bugs me how if you bought them yesterday morning they were $659.99 now up to $689. Disgusting price gouging.
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