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Old September 13, 2012, 03:09 PM
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Tbh...I am going to now avoid these review comment threads...the last 3 or so of a new card does nothing but being out the drama..sky keep up your good work...
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Old September 13, 2012, 03:17 PM
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If by "trolling" you mean "telling people the truth", then yes I'm a 100% troll.

Go read techpowerup, ht4u, toms, hardware.fr, xbitlabs, computerbase, techspot or a whole host of other reputable sites. They all show the same thing - that the 7870 is between 5% and 10% faster than the 660.

Now we've established that it's the faster card...and that it can be had for the same price while including a free game sleeping dogs, it should be quite clear to everyone that SKY's laughable comment about "Against AMD’s cards the GTX 660 is almost untouchable from a value standpoint" is a steaming pile of horseshit.
Good Lord, you are taking yourself waaayy too seriously, what a waste of bandwidth. Instead of spending your time lurking around the internet looking for people to pick a fight with, just go buy the card you prefer and be happy. We can all read, make up our own minds and buy what we want. I realize that as soon as I post this you will have a snappy rebuttal so, smell ya later........out.




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Old September 13, 2012, 03:19 PM
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Shameful review.

The 7870 is the same price on Newegg (after rebate) and comes with Sleeping Dogs. Everywhere except this site and Anandtech (what a surprise) has the card falling in-between the 7850 and 7870. Not only that, but Nvidia's own benchmarks had the card in-between the Pitcairns.

For you then to claim that this card has the 7870 thrashed on value is frankly, a bad joke. Take a long hard look at the rest of the benchmarks on the web and ask yourself what you're doing wrong.

Newegg.com - MSI N660 TF 2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Newegg.com - ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Please read this post. You did exactly the one thing I mentioned people shouldn't do when comparing cards. Again.

And the statement about the HD 7870 consistently beating the GTX 660 is an absolute joke. And no, don't bother posting links that say otherwise. After reading through endless reviews that are rife with a lack of transparent data about their benchmarks, seriously old games or a true lack of game variety I'm quite turned off by how lazy many of my fellow reviewers are when it comes to benchmarking. In many cases it's disgraceful.
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Old September 13, 2012, 03:19 PM
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Tbh...I am going to now avoid these review comment threads...the last 3 or so of a new card does nothing but being out the drama..sky keep up your good work...

ditto, keep those reviews coming.
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Old September 13, 2012, 03:28 PM
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Please read this post. You did exactly the one thing I mentioned people shouldn't do when comparing cards. Again.
Yeah nice try. Too bad you can get another 7 models at $239

Newegg.com - 7870

Are they all going to sell out as well? So for $10 more and getting Sleeping Dogs (value what, $40?), you somehow concluded that this FASTER CARD (anywhere except in yours and Anandtech's reviews) has somehow become "Against AMD’s cards the GTX 660 is almost untouchable from a value standpoint" is indefensible.
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Old September 13, 2012, 03:34 PM
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Yeah nice try. Too bad you can get another 7 models at $239

Newegg.com - 7870

Are they all going to sell out as well? So for $10 more and getting Sleeping Dogs (value what, $40?), you somehow concluded that this FASTER CARD (anywhere except in yours and Anandtech's reviews) has somehow become "Against AMD’s cards the GTX 660 is almost untouchable from a value standpoint" is indefensible.
Funny, you lambaste us when we talk about the positioning of NVIDIA's cards + mail in rebates.....and then you do the same thing with AMD's. Nice try. Bias much?
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Funny, you lambaste us when we talk about the positioning of NVIDIA's cards + mail in rebates.....and then you do the same thing with AMD's. Nice try. Bias much?
Amazon.com: MSI AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB GDDR5 DVI/HDMI/2xMini DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card R7870 HAWK: Computers & Accessories

Did you "miss" this one while checking Amazon?
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And the statement about the HD 7870 consistently beating the GTX 660 is an absolute joke. And no, don't bother posting links that say otherwise. After reading through endless reviews that are rife with a lack of transparent data about their benchmarks, seriously old games or a true lack of game variety I'm quite turned off by how lazy many of my fellow reviewers are when it comes to benchmarking. In many cases it's disgraceful.
Oh ye I get it - it's everyone else who is biased/incompetent. Right.

I mean you're really good at keeping up with the latest and would never benchmark an outdated title like, for example Dirt 3 instead of Dirt Showdown...OH WAIT A MINUTE.

And it's not like you'd dig out some weird title like Wargame: EU Escalation that nobody else benchmarks. Oh wait you did...but clearly as you're the epitome of fairness and equality, that's fine as surely it will put the respective cards in their proper positions, right?



Or not. The 660 is faster than the 7950 boost is it? How much % did that make up in your final totals SKY? Should I work it out for you?

This Wargame: EU benchmark has the 660 some 37% faster than the 7870 - you think that might be some of the reason why you are one of the two sites who actually believes the 660 is the faster card?
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Nice review as always. Just to add to the commotion I thought I would post this from techpowerup (more price drops from amd):

Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition - starts at $430
Radeon HD 7970 standard - starts at $410
Radeon HD 7950 Boost - starts at $300
Radeon HD 7950 standard - starts at $290
Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition - starts at $240
Radeon HD 7850 2 GB - starts at $200

AMD Prepares Yet Another Round of Radeon HD 7000 Series Price Cuts | techPowerUp
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Okay N00Bies enough is enough, show some damn respect for people who take hundreds of hours out of their days to write great reviews and give us informed decisions on why they believe one thing is good or bad. Quit nitpicking as its getting old.

Thank you Sky and HWC for taking all the time to do such amazing and awesome reviews and lets get these Threads back to questions about the cards and reviews not pissing contests from Fanboys and if you must know Crossfire and others I am a Die Hard AMD fan but Nvidia and Intel have far better products at this current moment for high to mid range gaming but give it a month a lot will change as it always does.

Again keep up the great work Sky, AKG and others you do us all a great service and some stuck up A Holes need to really try doing this stuff themselves as it is a hell of a lot of work and doesnt need to be belittled by others anymore.

Oh and Sky still waiting on my Image :P haha jk
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