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Old August 21, 2012, 06:46 AM
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This 'boost' edition only makes sense if equipped with a custom heatsink.
Does it still make sense with reference clocks and a price of $370?

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100352VXSR Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

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Old August 21, 2012, 07:27 AM
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You can get one for $329with a custom heatsink (I have this card, it's very quiet) and a 80MHZ OC from reference. This card will match the '7950 Boost Edition' since it will run at a steady 880 MHZ, instead of rubberbanding from 850 - 925Mhz. TR tested an MSI card with a factory OC at 880MHZ and found performance to be similar to the '7950b'

I've had mine running at 900MHZ from day one without any voltage increases, and temperatures hover around 36-40C under load, with nary a sound (at least, I can't hear it over the rest of my case fans...using the stock fan profiles).
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Claiming the 660 Ti is a "no brainer" at 1080p is a joke at best. Why don't you overclock the hell out of the 660 Ti, 7950 and even the 7870 and see what the results are, then see where your "no brainer" comment stands. Most people in forums throughout the web see it completely opposite and the 7950 is by far the more enticing card at any resolution.
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Old August 21, 2012, 07:43 AM
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Oh No, go Troll somewhere else, please. We're having a nice discussion here.

And, for the record, benchmarks at stock clocks are relevant. A lot of us (myself included) like to run our GPUs at close to factory settings, so as not to create any problems down the road (GPUs are expensive pieces of kit).
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Claiming the 660 Ti is a "no brainer" at 1080p is a joke at best. Why don't you overclock the hell out of the 660 Ti, 7950 and even the 7870 and see what the results are, then see where your "no brainer" comment stands. Most people in forums throughout the web see it completely opposite and the 7950 is by far the more enticing card at any resolution.
Apples and oranges. Stop comparing overclocked cards to reference results. Overclocking is by no means guaranteed, as has been proven by countless posts on this forum and others. Reference clocks on the other hand ARE guaranteed.

As we proved, this HD 7950 doesn't overclock all that well. If I had overclocked this card and our reference GTX 660 Ti to their maximum speeds, the result wouldn't have changed one iota as they're both horrible overclockers.

Not only that but the GTX 660 Ti AND GTX 670 consume less power, are quieter and operate at lower temperatures. That makes the GTX 660 Ti a "no brainer" at 1920 and the GTX 670 (in my opinion) at winner at higher resolutions, regardless of its on-par performance.
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Sky, with the announced AMD price cuts (7950 and 7950B) down to $319 for reference, does it change anything as far as value? I did wait for asking since wasn't sure if the cuts were legit, but read on AT as well as TR about it.
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Sky, with the announced AMD price cuts (7950 and 7950B) down to $319 for reference, does it change anything as far as value? I did wait for asking since wasn't sure if the cuts were legit, but read on AT as well as TR about it.
They aren't cuts. Those prices have been in place for the last few weeks. AMD is just making them "official" and reiterating them now to take some wind out of the GTX 660 Ti's sails. Brilliant marketing tactic, that's for sure.

As for the HD 7950 Boost coming down to $319 right away; I'll believe it when I see it. I can't for a moment think AMD would shoot their board partners in the foot like that. But if it does happen....customers will be in for a treat!
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They aren't cuts. Those prices have been in place for the last few weeks. AMD is just making them "official" and reiterating them now to take some wind out of the GTX 660 Ti's sails. Brilliant marketing tactic, that's for sure.

As for the HD 7950 Boost coming down to $319 right away; I'll believe it when I see it. I can't for a moment think AMD would shoot their board partners in the foot like that.

Ok, thanks for the clarification on this. Also, if the Boost edition is just a BIOS flash as I understand it by reading, how is it really shooting them in the foot exactly?
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The "shooting in the foot" isn't about the boost Edition. It is about price. Board partners got the clearance to reduce HD 7950 pricing to $320 in order to clear out stocks of existing cards, making way for the Boost Edition. Now we're being told that the Boost will also be $319....which leaves the board partners where exactly? With $319 reference designs they can't sell?

It is absolutely great for consumers but AMD's tactics on this one are very interesting and actually quite unique in my experience.
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are we still talking about this generation...

its over and its a tie at best...

although the 7870 7850 and anything below have no real purpose...well other than to satisfy budget gamers.
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