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Old April 21, 2012, 02:47 PM
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AMD dropping support for pre 5000 series cards in new drivers


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Old April 21, 2012, 03:47 PM
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Considering how many 4000 series cards are still in use (and still in the market channel) that's pretty stupid.
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Old April 21, 2012, 05:48 PM
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Considering how many 4000 series cards are still in use (and still in the market channel) that's pretty stupid.
I don't believe that article. Companies don't drop support that quickly, and a couple 4870s is still a usable 1080P set.

The author likely misunderstood something like they are breaking out the pre- 5X drivers.
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Old April 21, 2012, 06:36 PM
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They did it before. Right before the Win7 launch they dropped support for a trio of "older series" cards. nVidia and Intel have done similar things in their time. A way to try and force sales of new products.
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Old April 21, 2012, 08:28 PM
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This would be a really dick move by AMD.
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That's because the article linked copied another site's article without reading the damn thing.

AMD is dropping LINUX support for legacy cards.....NOT Windows support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I chalk that up to a dick move by a website that can't source their own content rather than any issue on AMD's part.

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Old April 22, 2012, 12:20 PM
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It's still a dick move. Lots of people use Linux, and lots of people use Linux AND windows on the same machine and can't be switching hardware. It will also likely end up happening to the Windows side as well not long after (as it did with previous cards when they did this the last time before the win7 launch).

Not everyone can afford to upgrade hardware every 3 years, nor is it truly necessary unless you are living on the technology bleeding edge (literally in the case of your wallet). An HD4870 (let alone 4870x2, 4890 ...) is not even 4 years old, still runs all mainstream apps with excellent performance and even does fairly well in most games. To discontinue support abruptly , and at this time is, imho inappropriate and looks suspiciously more like a move planned to try and force upgrades ratehr than any resources saving by AMD/ATI.

I think they may lose some otherwise loyal customers over this.
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Given the traditionally poor Linux support AMD/ATI has given over the years I wouldn't say there's much love lost from this move. Most serious Linux users (except for in the past few years) are exclusively Nvidia.
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Actually ATI/AMD are better *supporters* than nVidia. nVidia will not absolutely refuses to provide andy specs or opensource any aprt of their drivers. they are all closed source binaries. ATI on the other hand have provided specs and opensoruce code and have helped somewhat with the open source drivers. nVidia's open source drivers (nouveau) had to be reverse engineered because nVidia wouldn't help.

So I wouldn't say the support has been traditionally poor. I've had ATI cards running under Linux and BSD and other non-Windows systems since the early 90's and have ahd no problems with them at all. They haven't always been as fast or as feature rich as some might like, but the same is true for nVidia's.

This won't scare off less volatile users but it will create some bad feelings.
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It's still a dick move. Lots of people use Linux, and lots of people use Linux AND windows on the same machine and can't be switching hardware. It will also likely end up happening to the Windows side as well not long after (as it did with previous cards when they did this the last time before the win7 launch).

Not everyone can afford to upgrade hardware every 3 years, nor is it truly necessary unless you are living on the technology bleeding edge (literally in the case of your wallet). An HD4870 (let alone 4870x2, 4890 ...) is not even 4 years old, still runs all mainstream apps with excellent performance and even does fairly well in most games. To discontinue support abruptly , and at this time is, imho inappropriate and looks suspiciously more like a move planned to try and force upgrades ratehr than any resources saving by AMD/ATI.

I think they may lose some otherwise loyal customers over this.
It's like I told a guy on NV forums when he was saying the drivers weren't well optimized for his 7 year old game I had never heard of- progamming costs money and companies have to do cost benefit analysis of their labor all the time.

Like I thought, a misunderstanding for 95%+ of their users.

I don't see this as a big deal.
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