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Old March 10, 2012, 06:57 PM
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I don't have a gpu for my 2600k build yet. I'm waiting. For what? I don't know yet.

The 7870's ship in a few days, since a gtx 570 was on my previous wish list, the 7870 would be a great card for my situation; one monitor, 23.6in 1920x1080. From what I read, the 7870 performs better than the 570 in the same price bracket, and rivals the 580 when overclocked.

Lets say Nvidia's next $350 card is even better than the 7870, do you think I'd even notice a difference between the two? People tell me a 560ti would be good enough for me, but I want the next step up.

Not to mention, the 680's will likely ship first, and it may be well into spring before Nvidia's mid range stuff gets released. The 570's may get much cheaper once the new stuff and comes out.

Games I want to play: BF3, Fallout's, and Minecraft. lol. Integrated Hd 3000 plays Minecraft just fine for now!!

I'm leaning heavily on buying the MSI or Asus 7870.

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i7 2600k 4.4ghz 1.25vcore (yes, very stable), Hyper 212 Evo cooler.
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Asus VS347H-P 23.6in 1080 monitor.


P.S. I almost got a three month old 2.5gb 570 on ebay the other day for $260 but it got sniped away the last second!! I had to share that because I'm still sour about it.

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Old March 10, 2012, 07:02 PM
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I don't believe NVIDIA is releasing anything mid-range just yet. I believe they're starting with their flagship and then working their way down.

Since you only run 1080p, I think you'd be quite satisfied with a HD7870, or even the HD7850.
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Old March 11, 2012, 08:33 AM
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You could always wait for something new that is on the way. The bottom line is the 7870 offers great 1080p performance with low power consumption. If you need a card now even that is not an option as they aren't available yet (that I know of) for purchase. Really it all comes down to how long you want to wait and what you want to spend. If you want it now then a 560Ti/570/ hd 6950/hd 6970/hd 7950 are what you should be looking at...if you can wait for stock on 7870 then go for it (better performance and less power). If you aren't in a rush then wait around for Nvidia's cards...they may very well be worth the wait, but nobody is going to be able to say for sure until release day comes (and even what the release date is is not clear...though rumours have it as a top down release of cards, so mid range may take some time).

The other option is to use an older card (that you may already have or can get on the cheap) to hold you over while you decide what you really want/need.
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Old March 11, 2012, 10:38 AM
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I wouldn`t drop to a 7850, they are excellent cards yes, however I overclock, and to rely on TRIX or Afterburner to get the most overclock I can well that stinks :P

7870 would be the best pick of $/performance, however, 560Ti is the current card out there that takes that spot, outright performance/$ that belongs to the 7900 series, Nvidias current cards simply cannot touch them, but yes they are costly.

I look at it this way, I have a pretty overclocked 6870 and it plays all the current games at 1920x1080 60Hz just fine, some games like Skyrim or BF3 I cannot max out, for this the 560Ti is a step up and it should be (it is more $ after all) I can play medium/high settings on all games with my overclocked 955 and I get mid 70s constant frames, my buddy with 560ti easily gets in the mid 80s with higher settings same screen size/reso. So would a 7850/7870 or higher be overkill, well that depends, I like the concept of being able to max out every single game I play and it still has room for more, for this the current cards do lack a touch the 7k series and Kepler have some headroom both in power usage, temperatures, and most assuredely overclocking.

Comes down to the $ you have, if it has to be $300 or less, well 6950/560Ti/7850 are all in that range, 7850 is the fastest of those choices, if has to be below $400 570/560 448 core/6950/7870 definately the 7870 os the best choise, if money not much an issue, well 7970 by far is the best fastest card out there, who knows what Kepler will bring, the ONLY thing I have heard on Kepler is they pushed one number up, being the x50 becomes the x60(550=560) x60 becomes the x70(560=570) and so forth, apprently did this to make them more comparable to AMD offerings and to maximize thier costs/profit margin, but who knows either way, supposed to be march 14th or so we hear more I believe
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If you have the money the 7870 should do you fine. The drivers will most certainly get better overtime they usually do and you have breathing room with the 7870. If AMD drops the price on the 7950 any say closer to $425 then that would be a better buy. Don't know the spec on your board do mostly AMD build but if it support dual graphics card then you always add another 7870 for more power if you need it down the road. Crossfire performance is here now. Click on the review below a dual 7870 system in crossfire in alien vs predator is only 25 fps off of a dual 7950 system. That very good and saves you money in your pocket, which you can use for more games or hardware.

AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB Reference Video Cards in CrossFire :: TweakTown USA Edition
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Money isn't really the main object. I simply am not spending $600 on a video card right now. I have a single $180 monitor. My complete setup was only $1615 cnd, including OS, G510 keyboard, G9x mouse and monitor.

From what I've been reading, the 7870 looks to be my best choice for power/headroom. They are supposed to launch March 19th, and if the price is around the $350 mark as predicted, I'll be buying one asap.

I just wish they were BLUE!
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Old March 11, 2012, 06:15 PM
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I am also looking at the HD 7870 to replace my HD 5850. Looks like the best bang for the buck. Be nice to see Kepler come out and maybe have a bit of a price drop. But I hear Nvidia will release the top cards then work their way down. So who knows the release date of a Kepler card = to the HD 7870.
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Old March 17, 2012, 04:07 PM
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There are blue ones, BukitHedd! The Sapphire HD 7870 OC model has blue PCB.

Check out this youtube link where you can actually see it on the Sapphire 7870 model.
Sapphire HD 7870 GHz OC Edition 2GB Video Card Review & Benchmarks - YouTube

P.S. Registered just now just to tell you this! Because I also want to get one (Specifically Sapphire), and I know how much the little details mean when buying a brand new item.
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Nice find! I'll be looking into this for sure. I'd like everything to match my Asus P8Z68 board. Red would look funny in there. Thanks!
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Just get a nice 7870 and you'll be good.
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