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Old March 5, 2012, 12:04 PM
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People tend to forget that the 5850/5870 was more or less replaced by the 6950/6970 combo. This would be why my lowly 5830 is comparable to a 6850. So yes, your 5870 was actually a great card, and in many respects almost as fast (or faster) than a 6970. Really, the 7870 is a replacement for those people running 5850s or 6870s, while the 7950 (while expensive) would probably be your preferred replacement.
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I give kudo to AMD, they are not striving to make the absolute fastest card out there(can tell by the transistor budget and the shaders as an example) they seem to be more content on driving performance up, but knocking power, and temperatures down, while also driving visual quality up.

The $ is a touch high, but then again, there is no "real" direct competition to the 7800 and 7900 series cards right now, I am 100% positive, when Nvidia releases Kepler and it performs the way Nvidia has been stating, I am very much sure the prices will drop accordingly.

Kudos to AMD for releasing these as fast as they could with the performance they did, it bode well for being a VERY good $ once thier competition releases, hey, at least thier numbering goes back to what it should have.

i.e 6870 was not faster then 5870, but 7870 is faster then 6870 by quite a bit, and costs more for now) which makes sence :)
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Old March 5, 2012, 02:40 PM
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i.e 6870 was not faster then 5870, but 7870 is faster then 6870 by quite a bit, and costs more for now) which makes sence :)
Once again, the 5870 was the fastest single GPU Radeon back in it's day. You should have said that the 6970 was just barely faster than the 5870, and the 6870 was substantially slower.

Comparing the 5870 to the 7870 is not an apples to apples comparison, seeing as the 5870 was an ultra enthusiast card (same as the 7970) while the 7870 card is merely enthusiast (kinda like the 5830 was, just with a major bump in performance).

Really, the 5870 should be compared performancewise to the 7970, in which case you truly see the performance jump that AMD has achieved.

AMD changed their naming schemes with the 6xxx series.

Essentially, 79xx = 69xx = 58xx, while 78xx = 68xx = 57xx, with the resultant performance increases each year, obviously.
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Old March 5, 2012, 04:58 PM
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Very nice indeed. So when can I pick a bad boy 7870 up?
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Old March 5, 2012, 05:33 PM
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I am really thinking on retiring my HD5850 and get the HD7870. The price for HD7870 is the same price I paid for my HD5850. Looks like a really nice upgrade path. Plus I am going to get a new 22" monitor 1920 x 1080. to replace my 22" 1650 x 1050 monitor. Do you guys think the 7870 would be a nice upgrade from my 5850?
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Very nice indeed. So when can I pick a bad boy 7870 up?
I think the official launch date from AMD is March 19th. I read somewhere they were waiting until Cebit and one of the Gaming conventions.

It is an interesting card. Would have been nice if it had of equalled the 6970 in terms of specs but on a smaller die but it's still quite a decent little card.

Might make a nice repalcement for my 4870 which is starting to struggle a bit in some newer games.
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ATI is really putting on a good show here! I wonder if they have gross profit margins as usual with new cards? I bet there is lots of room for these to come down in prices once the competition heats up.

I'll hold off on any upgrades though until nvidia can bring out their next gen and (hopefully) start a price war :D. Damn, the new ssgcaa (or whatever it is) look siiiick :D
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The 7870 looks good hopefully nvidia gets the price war going soon.
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What are the performance gains for the 7870 over the 5870? 10-15%?
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Old March 5, 2012, 08:24 PM
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What are the performance gains for the 7870 over the 5870? 10-15%?
According to TPU, the 7870 is about 23% faster than a 5870 at 1920x1200.
If I hadn't gotten an amazing deal on my 7950, I would have gone for a 7870. Not much difference in performance, but 100 bucks cheaper.
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