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Old February 9, 2012, 10:22 AM
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My HD4850 512MB card from god knows how long ago has started to act up. (artifacts in the screen/ other nonsense.) I push it pretty hard so I am not surprised that it has begun to degrade. These things happen.

My question is what should I replace it with? I am an AMD fan, mostly because of my belief that Intel needs someone to push thier limits, otherwise no one wins. And it seems that even when AMD is around intel manages to cheat and make their business lazy. Sorry about that little rant. Not trying to start flame wars.

I would like to replace it with an offering of the AMD variety, but, not being up to the second with the graphics community anymore, I would like to know what sort of card to replace it with. Here are the things I have to consider.

1) 1080p gaming - want to be able to use the extreme settings on all games.

2) Limited budget but flexible, if I can see a reason to spend extra monies I will.

3) Needs to have a waterblock available for it. I hate fans...

4) I would like to have it be future proof. I haven't paid for a new graphics card in three years, and I don't want to do so again.

Bonus) WTF is this PCI 3.0 thing? any use to me at all? I know that it isn't strictly used yet, but seeing as how Ivy Bridge is going to be compatible with it is it something I should consider?

Bonus 2) AA and AF, usually dont play with those on, 1 does it make a difference in visual quality? (big fan of that BTW) and 2 how much more would I have to pay to get that extra bit of gfx.


So far I have thought about the HD6870, and the HD6970, the price difference is huge, and I dont know if the HD6970 is worth the extra dough. HD 6950 would be something I would look at as well, though it seems a shame to buy a card that is "artificially cheapened" by a firmware lock.
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Old February 9, 2012, 10:44 AM
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though it seems a shame to buy a card that is "artificially cheapened" by a firmware lock.
You can unlock the shaders of a 6950 so you have the same amount as a 6970 and then you can overclock it from there which if you overclock to 6970 base clock speeds it will essentially run like a 6970.

For that reason I would buy a 6950 because it will probably give you the most life for $250.
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Old February 9, 2012, 12:04 PM
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I have a 5870 with a swiftech komodo waterblock on it that I'm going to put for sale this week :-)
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Old February 9, 2012, 12:25 PM
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I have a 5870 with a swiftech komodo waterblock on it that I'm going to put for sale this week :-)
What would the damage be for that?
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Old February 9, 2012, 12:41 PM
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You can unlock the shaders of a 6950 so you have the same amount as a 6970 and then you can overclock it from there which if you overclock to 6970 base clock speeds it will essentially run like a 6970.

For that reason I would buy a 6950 because it will probably give you the most life for $250.
How difficult is that to accomplish? I'm sorta a scaredy cat when it comes to modifying the firmware of my things. (Had a bad experience with a bricked router once).
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Old February 9, 2012, 05:51 PM
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As far as I know unlocking from 6950 to 6970 was only possible with the original reference version of the 6950 and is not possible anymore unless you find one used.

The hd 6850 and 6870 offer great performance for the dollar and should be considered if you are really trying to keep costs down.

The 6950 is faster than both 6800 cards, but does carry a larger price tag.

Personally I wouldn't buy a new 6970 now given the price. If you are spending that much you are better off just biting the bullet and going to a 7950 IMO.

AMD is releasing the 7xxx series cards now (79xx all ready out) and the 78xx cards should be coming out soon. I think these may be worth looking into for you (pending some proper reviews to confirm this).

Really it all comes down to how much you want to spend.
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The hd 6850 and 6870 offer great performance for the dollar and should be considered if you are really trying to keep costs down.

The 6950 is faster than both 6800 cards, but does carry a larger price tag.

AMD is releasing the 7xxx series cards now (79xx all ready out) and the 78xx cards should be coming out soon. I think these may be worth looking into for you (pending some proper reviews to confirm this).

Really it all comes down to how much you want to spend.
I understand that every one of these cards will do what I want them too right now at the current graphics demands of games, I guess to narrow down my question a bit more, is there a sweet spot in the current 6000/7000 series line up that would be best for me to consider? the 7950 is already 450 dollars, and then add another 120 dollars on top of that for a waterblock and it seems like too much of an investment in something that is only doing 1080p gaming, which means that the 6970 would be too much of an investment as well? that means that I am down between the 6800 series and a 6950. Is the price difference between them worth the extra hundred dollars as an investment in 3 years of good gaming?
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Why not wait for the new 7800s to decide? Shouldn't be too long till they show up.
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Why not wait for the new 7800s to decide? Shouldn't be too long till they show up.
mine is dying as we speak, I gots blue spots all over my screen
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both sapphire 6950s that I have a super quiet, 1 is a single fan, the other is dual fan
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