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Old March 31, 2011, 03:58 PM
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I need a new card. I don't really know much about the current ones out right now so any help is appreciated.

My current setup is:

22inch LCD (1680x1050)
q6600 @ 3.0
4gb ram
a broken 8800gt (had temporary revival success by baking it GPU broken... but once again it's broken)
corsair 520hx psu

I'm in Ottawa so I was hoping to just drive over to Canada computers and pick one up there as that is pretty much the only decent hardware shop I know of in this city. I'm sure NCIX has some good deals but unless they're amazing, I don't really feel like waiting for shipping.

Here is what I found at Canadacomputers so far:

Nvidia:
GTX 460:
EVGA GeForce GTX 460 768MB (768-P3-1360-TR) nVidia GeForce GTX 460 Chipset (675Mhz) 768MB (3600Mhz) GDDR5 Dual Dual-Link DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card | Canada Computers
EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SE 1024MB GDDR5 (01G-P3-1366-TR) nVidia GeForce GTX 460 SE Chipset (650Mhz) 1GB (3400Mhz) DDR5 Dual Display DVI-I/Mini-HDMI PCI Express 2.0 Graphics Card | Canada Computers
GTX 465:
PNY GeForce GTX 465 1024MB (VCGGTX465XPB) nVidia GeForce GTX 465 Chipset (607Mhz) 1024MB (3206Mhz) GDDR5 Dual Dual-Link DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card | Canada Computers

ATI:
HD 6850:
PowerColor (AX6850 1GBD5-DH) HD 6850 1GB DDR5 ATI Radeon HD 6850 Chipset (775Mhz) 1GB (4000Mhz) DDR5 Triple Display Dual Dual-Link DVI/HDMI/2x Mini Display Port PCI-Express 2.1 Graphics Card | Canada Computers
Gigabyte (GV-R685D5-1GD) ATI Radeon HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon HD 6850 Chipset (775Mhz) 1GB GDDR5 (4000Mhz) Memory HD Audio Triple Display (Dual DVI) /HDMI/2x Mini Display Port PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card | Canada Computers
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon HD 6850 Chipset (775Mhz) 1GB GDDR5 (4000Mhz) Memory HD Audio Triple Display (Dual DVI) /HDMI/Display Port PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card | Canada Computers
HD 5850:
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon HD 5850 Chipset (725Mhz) 1GB GDDR5 (4000Mhz) Memory HD Audio Triple Display (Dual Dual-Link DVI)/HDMI/Display Port PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card | Canada Computers

As you can see, my budget is anywhere between $150-$190 (The less I can spend the better unless that 5850 is really worth it).

One concern is my PSU. Will it be okay to upgrade? Anyways, let me know what you guys think.
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Old March 31, 2011, 05:42 PM
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I will help you eliminate 2. Not the gtx 460 SE and not the gtx 465. I would pick between the hd 6850s and the gtx 460 768mb (its a great card for your resolution). That said a 6850 is a slightly more powerful graphics card (though it also costs slightly more).
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Old March 31, 2011, 05:52 PM
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yeah I was leaning towards the gtx 460 768mb ( EVGA GeForce GTX 460 768MB (768-P3-1360-TR) nVidia GeForce GTX 460 Chipset (675Mhz) 768MB (3600Mhz) GDDR5 Dual Dual-Link DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card | Canada Computers )

The price is nice and the mail in rebate is enough to make me actually send it in.
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Old March 31, 2011, 06:51 PM
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If you're looking for a sub $200 card, I would definitely look for a 1GB 460. You should be able to find one at CC..
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weird, i thought i posted here..


6850 all the way and clock it to hell and back!

unless you care for physx or cuda.


edit your psu will be fine, even if the older model. good units, giving al lthe caps and stuff are still ok :D
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weird, i thought i posted here..


6850 all the way and clock it to hell and back!

unless you care for physx or cuda.


edit your psu will be fine, even if the older model. good units, giving al lthe caps and stuff are still ok :D
I'm not exactly sure what physx and cuda really are. All I really care about is if I can play BF3.
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6850 all the way and clock it to hell and back!

unless you care for physx or cuda.
couldnt agree more, just made a build for a gift with xfx 6850s in crossfire and they both easily reached 950mhz core with 1.16v...these cards clock real nice and do perform about the same as a massively OCed gtx470 while been much cooler, quieter and less power hungry! not to mention the crossfire scaling is way better than the 5xxx series but doubt that matters to you...
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with your current system + 1680x1050 it should be doable...:)
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If you are looking into the GTX 460 756MB card, that is definitely not going have the speed of the 1GB version or the 6850, but it's dirt cheap with MIR... I've seen it advertised for ~ $115 after MIR quite often.

Personally, I find that nvidia seems to (usually) be a more solid buy than ATI, but if you look at benchmarks only, ATI often wins the price performance war... Personally, I like to tell people that you can spend up to an extra 5-10% on an nvidia card for the same performance before the deal starts to tip in favour of ATI.

Also, I don't you'd be satisfied with the GTX 460 756MB card... so stick with 1GB cards.
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I'm not exactly sure what physx and cuda really are. All I really care about is if I can play BF3.
Physx is an nvidia proprietary physics engine that is used in some games for added realism (in these games you wont be able to enable these effects if u dont have an nvidia gpu or a dedicated physx card) however BF3 is going to be made by DICE and is going to be an AMD title so chances of it using physx are none if u ask me (although no official statement on this yet).

CUDA lets you use ur GPU to do parallel computing (C/C++), AMD cards do let you do parallel computing too but the technology on the red side is much less refined/has much less support atm.
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