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Old February 18, 2011, 11:33 PM
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I bought an Asus ENGTX460 768MB Top ( Upgraded from 8600GTS....) 2 days ego and now iam diseperatly doubting my purchase after a freind's comment that i should had bought the 1gb intead or a ati 6850 which performs better. After reading a couple of reviews iam still confused.

I play games at 1600x1050 ( 22'' monitor) . I prefer not to lower the seeting and keep them at maximum level exept the AA depending on games(2 AA is ok for me). I bought the video card for 169$ canadiens. I prefer staying below 200$ or not much more. The ati Hd6850 is at 190$ and GTX 460 1GB is at 209$ in my region.

I deseperatly need an advise .Considering my specs (i know that the gxt 460 1gb and ati 6850 are better)do you think the Asus ENGTX460 768MB overcloked is enough for 1600x1050 (IAm not planing chaging my monotor) or i should return it and get the gtx 460 1GB - ati 6850. Iam a big fan of Total War series and the Shogun 2 is about to come. I also planing to play Starcraft 2, Battle field :Bad company 2, dead space 2, well all sorts of games that are already out and the games to come this year.

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CPU: Dual Core 2.13 (Overcloked to 2.6GHZ)
3GB RAM
Windows 7 32
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Old February 19, 2011, 12:05 AM
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howdy and welcome. for your resolution the card will be fine. 169 tax in is not a bad price, although ive seen used 1gb's for some 20-30 less :)

do give us the complete specs of your computer,including psu,hdd,etc.

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Old February 19, 2011, 05:55 AM
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CPU: Dual Core 2.13 (Overcloked to 2.6GHZ)
3GB RAM
Windows 7 32
I'm going to assume your CPU is an E6400. In that case, you're barely making the minimum requirements for Shogun2 and you're probably giving your 460 a significant bottleneck at that resolution.
Even if you bought a GTX 580/6970, you probably wouldn't see very impressive performance.

Total War: SHOGUN 2? ? System Requirements Revealed

If you can afford it, the easiest solution would be a complete platform change. But that's going to be fairly costly considering your 460/6850 prices.

Otherwise, I would get a good value aftermarket cooler and overclock your CPU to its reasonable limits on air. (3-3.4ghz probably)
If possible I would also change to a 64bit os, you might only be getting about 2.5gb of usable memory in your current system, the Total War series can be a bit of a hog, as well as Windows itself.
If you're desperate, you could try running Total War through Wine on a 64bit Linux distro. It's free, so all you lose is time and a bit of bandwidth. Might result in a great deal of frustration and failure though.
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Old February 19, 2011, 07:15 AM
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At your resolution the 768 is fine... the only thing I would say is, is that is a tad expensive for a gtx 460... for example getting this one shipped to your door is cheaper Buy Gigabyte [GV-N460OC-768I] Gigabyte GeForce GTX 460 Fermi 715MHZ 768MB GDDR5 2XDVI MINI-HDMI PCI-E DX11 Video Card

and then here is the 1 gb
Buy Gigabyte [GV-N460OC-1GI] Gigabyte GeForce GTX 460 Fermi 715MHZ 1Gb GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E DX11 Video Card

and another one from evga even cheaper
Buy the EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB GDDR5 PCIe at TigerDirect.ca

And here is a 5850 that performs better but is still in your budget.
Buy the XFX Radeon HD 5850 Black Edition, PCIe, HDMI, DVI at TigerDirect.ca

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Old February 19, 2011, 07:16 AM
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I recently noticed a significant bottleneck on a E8500 system with 4GB ram cpu running at stock and ram at 1066 Mhz. I used two different cards starting with the HD 4870 and upgraded to a GTX 460 768MB. Using the FarCry 2 benchmark the results were almost the same at 1680 x 1050 Overclocking the E8500 to 3.8 Ghz did help but not by much compared to the same video card running on a X4 965 system which benched much faster. I came to the realization that it was time to upgrade the mobo and cpu in order to get that significantly performance increase I was hoping for from upgrading to the GTX460.

Some games are cpu bound as well ...
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Thank you very much for the advises
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This topic is kinda what I'm faced with now: upgrading to either the gtx460, or some close ATI product, but after searching benchmarks, I too think my cpu will be the bottleneck and I'd be better off with a complete system upgrade. I'm currently running and old 9650 AMD quad, the max my mobo will handle in terms of physical size and wattage, and by looking at 3dmark tests for the same cpu with the 460, I'm not sure it's worth it at all. I'm not overclocked and i don't know the first thinng about doing it, but I do have a massive cooler on it, Scyth Mugen 2 i think, idling at 36c right now.

Here's my last 3dm06 result Result not far off the 460 with the same cpu. :( and a compare view with a typical HD6850 Result

suggestions?

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