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Old October 24, 2010, 10:49 AM
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I'm going to keep my mouth shut about this whole "include an overclocked card" thing because the same request was made of us. I didn't have the time to include it one way or another.

As I said to NVIDIA: how would you have felt if we had tested overclocked HD 5800 series cards in the GTX 400 series launch review? I know for a certainty how that conversation would have turned out...

That being said, I will be including the FTW where it should be included: in an overclocking review.
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nice. so you're going to pit the 460 vs the 6850 both with major clocks under their belt? :) will it include overvolting? if so, it shall be quite interesting ;)
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I'm with SKY on this one.

IMHO, this thing is being thrown out of proportions because if you are in this forum, participating in this discussion, you're already part of a "hardcore" audience that wouldn't buy into pre-overclocked cards. We buy base cards for a cheaper price because we know how to/can overclock them ourselves. The only time anyone of us would ever consider buying a pre-overclocked card is if its reduced in price bringing it close to the price of a stock card, or if it comes with a great custom cooler that warrants the extra premium for better temperatures and noise (i.e. Vapor-X by Sapphire).

But this situation I guess goes beyond what we choose to buy and it gets into some messy topics in ethics, and corporatism and etc which I don't even want to get into.
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Old October 24, 2010, 11:02 AM
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As I said to NVIDIA: how would you have felt if we had tested overclocked HD 5800 series cards in the GTX 400 series launch review? I know for a certainty how that conversation would have turned out...
That's what I'm saying. If Anandtech has the readers "best interest" in mind, then why not feature factory OC'd cards in every review?

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That being said, I will be including the FTW where it should be included: in an overclocking review.
Precisely. Why would you compare an excessively OC'd, factory card to a recently released reference card? Furthermore, if you do make such a comparison, be certain that the factory card is priced the same in all districts and has an abundant supply. It might help your case..........You'd expect Anandtech to rationalize such a thing......Particularly if they aren't "biased."

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nice. so you're going to pit the 460 vs the 6850 both with major clocks under their belt? :) will it include overvolting? if so, it shall be quite interesting ;)
The first one will be GTX 460 1GB versus HD 6870. Overclocked and voltage added. However, only MINIMAL voltage adjustments will be done because both products gain temperature at an alarming rate once additional voltage is applied.

As for this "let's get a clear version of the market" BS, I don't buy it. NVIDIA pushed and it just so happened that 3/4 of the websites reviewing the HD 6800 series added in the GTX 460 FTW? Come on. I didn't see a single GTX 400-series launch review that included pre-overclocked HD 5800 cards that were available at the time.
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hmm, some reviewers put the fan on 100% and see what the max stable results are. i see you're going on a more safe approach, perhaps 24/7 folding stable? :)



edit 6870? isnt the 6850 the one to go against the 460's, 768 and 1gb versions?
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Old October 24, 2010, 11:11 AM
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I'm going to keep my mouth shut about this whole "include an overclocked card" thing because the same request was made of us. I didn't have the time to include it one way or another.

As I said to NVIDIA: how would you have felt if we had tested overclocked HD 5800 series cards in the GTX 400 series launch review? I know for a certainty how that conversation would have turned out...

That being said, I will be including the FTW where it should be included: in an overclocking review.
I really want to just put a +1 after this. This post is perfect.

Since I cant I'll say the following; I agree, nVidia is out to lunch requesting this. They are absolutely scared of the 6800 series, and are trying to damage control the situation instead of rolling with the punches. I would have LOVED to see the flak that nV gave out if said 5800 series situation had of happened. People would have lost sponsorships for sure.

As to the cow/steak/plastic comment; I'm not denying the behinds the scenes stuff, I'm merely wondering at what extent ANY information needs to be shown. Where do you draw the line?

This commentary for the last 10ish posts is fantastic by the way. Keep it up HWC'ers
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Kudos to SKYMTL and HWC reviewers to stay CLEAN and out of the bull.

Let's push the manufacturers to create faster and better cards, not encourage them to make us believe things!!!

I'm ready to buy the next nVIDIA monster if it's realtively cool while powerful..for now, it's been AMD's year in 2010.
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Kudos to SKYMTL and HWC reviewers to stay CLEAN and out of the bull.

Let's push the manufacturers to create faster and better cards, not encourage them to make us believe things!!!

I'm ready to buy the next nVIDIA monster if it's realtively cool while powerful..for now, it's been AMD's year in 2010.

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btw sky, it would be interesting to bench both cards at the same clocks. i know its apples to kiwis, but just for fun : 'the showdown....gtx 460 xxx core vs 6850 xxx core, dont miss it!!!'
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