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sempifer August 27, 2010 10:25 PM

gtx 460 or 2 4850 or 2 gtx 260
 
hey guys im building up my gaming pc and i need some help.... im pretty confused

here are my options for gpus

1 evga 460 1gb superclocked

2 radeon 4850 crosffire

2 gtx 260 sli

which will give me better performance?

this is what im planning to buy if u see anything wrong or anyways i can improve for about same price please let me know.. im noob.

-ASUS M4A88T-M Motherboard - AMD 880GX, Socket AM3, mATX, DDR3, RAID, SATA, VGA, DVI, HDMI- 90$

-:Corsair XMS3 TW3X4G1333C9AG 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 RAM -95$

-Seagate 7200.11 ST31500341AS Barracuda Hard Drive - 1.5TB, 7200RPM, 32MB Cache, SATA-3G - 80$

-AMD Phenom II X4 945 Quad Core Processor - 3.00GHz, Socket AM3, 6MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s) FSB, OEM Processor - 140$



these are most important parts as far as i know i know i need a good power supply and colling parts etc... please let me know i need some advice before ordering everything out.

ps: sorry for bad english

jcmaz August 27, 2010 10:38 PM

Welcome to the forums :)

Your motherboard does not support Crossfire nor SLI. Therefore I recommend the GTX460. Just make sure you get the AR version of the EVGA card. If you do choose Xfire or SLI, be prepared for increased power consumption and <100% scaling. Also you need a new motherboard that supports SLi or Xfire. Two GTX260 will give you the best performance from the selection.

I recommend the CM 212+ CPU cooler. I would also pay a bit more for the Retail box of the PII 945. You get warranty directly from AMD, not the store that you bought your parts from.

You are still missing a case. I would wait till the HAF912 comes out in September and then choose a case. I recommend the Antec 300, Azza 910, CM 690II, Silverstone PS04 or PS05.

sempifer August 27, 2010 10:48 PM

sorry thats the wrong motherboard its actually one
its either

MSI 790GX-G65 Motherboard for xfire or

MSI NF980-G65 Motherboard for sli

thanks for ur reply

also 2 460s = 430$+ so its really not an option....

do you guys think this build will be good to run latest games with decent graphics settings?

JD August 27, 2010 11:01 PM

Dual GTX260s will offer the most performance, but SLI support for AMD systems is pretty poor. You get stuck with a crappy NVIDIA chipset, which is just bad bad bad.

So in this scenario, a single GTX460 is the best choice. All your parts seem alright. However the main concern is the power supply. What are you using there?

If you have the money though, I'd suggest the following improvements:

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T - roughly $210 but you get 6-cores at your fingertips! Good if you do heavy CPU tasks like video encoding and such.

ASUS M4A87TD EVO or GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3
- both around the $110 mark, gives you a full ATX board so you have more expansion possibilities. Lacks onboard graphics (which you don't need since you want to buy a video card). Still no Crossfire/SLI though.However you could go with the ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 or GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H instead which are around the $150 mark but adds Crossfire support. If you go this route, then you'll probably want to consider the HD5770, HD5830 or HD5850 as your video cardso that you could add another in the future.

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 Model 996585/Model 996768
- should be a bit cheaper ($83), but I guess it depends on where you're buying from. Same specs as Corsair and Mushkin is still a solid brand. Also uses a more standard 1.5V so you shouldn't have any issues booting up. The 1.6V on the Corsair may be a bit iffy with AMD as the 890GX board I have defaults to 1.5V.

One other question, what resolution do you game at? That really judges how well games will play.

_dangtx_ August 27, 2010 11:06 PM

i would actually go with the 8 series, the 870a around 100 bucks from giga is a monster i na class of its own

the problem with the 980a chipsetted boards is that they are not well 'known' and widespread as other boards, so to give you an idea of how good or bad they are, just cant.

that cpu is ok, but depending on what else you do with the computer, it might be too much or not enough. a couple of games will benefit from extra cores.

you wont be able to run at/above 1920x1080/1200 max settings all games, even with dual 460's techPowerUp :: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SLI Review :: Page 23 / 27

although doing that good in metro and spanking the 480 (1920) shows the power/value of these beasts

sempifer August 27, 2010 11:12 PM

im planning on getting a 600-650w PW... anything 70$ or lower is ok for me... ive seen many going for this prices... if u know of one specific please recommend it to me...

so let me see if i got his right..... nvidia sli gpus suck on amd cpu based motherboards? if this is right... please recomend me an intel cpu or will the one you previously mentioned will work right with the gtx 460? sorry im a bit confused here... but desperate to order my pc components asap...as for the case and other peripherals.. its not a good idea to order online since i live in dominican republic and the case is too heavy (10lb+) and ill have to pay ridiculous amount of money etc in the courier for them to ship me here.... so its better if i buy peripherals here...

Arinoth August 27, 2010 11:19 PM

I would go with the 460 as it is the only current/new generation graphics card out of the lot that you selected. It will enable you to SLI down the road, run nvidia 3-d if you choose (or surround gaming), as well as it will allow you to run games in DX11 (which have some graphical improvements against DX10/9)

sempifer August 27, 2010 11:32 PM

thanks for your reply... now im pretty sure i want the 460.. i will get evga's AR edition since it has long warranty...and i will be able to buy another and run it sli in the future when i feel i need mroe power... now my main concern is which motherboard/cpu to get...keeping in mind my sli expansion in the near future ( i guess i need an sli capable board but not sure if amd cpus run good along with sli...) please reply.

Skyllz August 28, 2010 07:39 AM

Stricly for gaming...

I recently built my wife a small system that rock pretty good considering the price.

i3-540 with a +212 cooler
4 gigs of Mushkin
p55 EVGA mobo
Cosair HX520 I had around
EVGA 460GTX SC

I dont remember the total but I was surprised and it's been running fiiiine so far.

technix August 28, 2010 09:24 AM

Why does EVGA have difference in warranty? I looked it up, too and the -AR series is lifetime versus the -TR being 2 yrs. Big difference. Looks as though the -AR version has a much higher overclock... is that why? It's also a much more expensive card and I assume that is due to the warranty difference plus the much higher factory overclock. The 'EE' model looks good and gets good reviews on newegg if that matters. If you're going with EVGA, I think I'd choose that one (if you have the funds).


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