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What about steam games. Doesn't steam only allow you to install all your games into one folder which is under steam in program files. Half of my steam games, would take up my whole SSD...
Well, you can back up the games you aren't playing onto an HD with more space. Just right click the game you wish to backup, and Steam lets you specify a directory. I have games I don't play at the moment in a folder on my RAID, and what I am playing stays on my SSD.

Alternatively, you can follow these directions: | Heartlessgamer.com | TIP: How to move Steam games to another drive in Windows 7/Vista/XP

I'm sure there's an even simpler way yet that someone will chime in with.
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Well, you can back up the games you aren't playing onto an HD with more space. Just right click the game you wish to backup, and Steam lets you specify a directory. I have games I don't play at the moment in a folder on my RAID, and what I am playing stays on my SSD.

Alternatively, you can follow these directions: | Heartlessgamer.com | TIP: How to move Steam games to another drive in Windows 7/Vista/XP

I'm sure there's an even simpler way yet that someone will chime in with.
And what happens what I do want to play one of those games? Do I have to wait an hour or so for it to install?
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What about steam games. Doesn't steam only allow you to install all your games into one folder which is under steam in program files. Half of my steam games, would take up my whole SSD...
You can install Steam on any other drive you want. I have a 1TB drive dedicated to games, and my entire Steam directory is on there.
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I'm sure there's an even simpler way yet that someone will chime in with.
You can just move the game directories right out of the Steamapps folder and onto a different drive, and then move it back when you want to play the game. That makes things a lot easier.
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I unpacked Fallout 3 GOTY that was backed up yesterday and it took several minutes. That game was about 9 GB or so.

Edit: Oops, beaten. And with a better method!
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I say sell your 460, buy a 480.
Keep your Q9550 for another year or so, benchmarks show very little difference between a well oc'd/cooled Q9550 and an i7 920 in gaming and every day tasks.
Yes if you get into compression and photoshopping etc.. all that stuff the i7 will be more powerful and efficient with it's cycles, but in gaming you get very little of that.
In a year or two you'll start seeing games taking advantage of that technology and then by then the 6+ cores will be out at the same prices(ridiculous) as the 920's are.

An SSD or selling your 460 and going to a single 480 will show the best bang for your buck atm.
As long as you keep your case clean and use evga precision(or something like it) to force the fan to 79-81%(sweet spot in sound for my case, can barely hear it) cooling will be very little of an issue. With the latest drivers I have never seen my card go past 91C and only then with a benchmark. Gaming I rarely hit 80C unless I'm showing off Metro maxed lol
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You can install Steam on any other drive you want. I have a 1TB drive dedicated to games, and my entire Steam directory is on there.

You can just move the game directories right out of the Steamapps folder and onto a different drive, and then move it back when you want to play the game. That makes things a lot easier.
But the thing is, I want some games to be on my SSD for better performance: GTA4 (15gb BAM), Bad Company, COD4, etc.

So basically I want to be able to install a portion on my steam games on my ssd and a portion on my storage drive.
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I say sell your 460, buy a 480.
Keep your Q9550 for another year or so, benchmarks show very little difference between a well oc'd/cooled Q9550 and an i7 920 in gaming and every day tasks.
Yes if you get into compression and photoshopping etc.. all that stuff the i7 will be more powerful and efficient with it's cycles, but in gaming you get very little of that.
In a year or two you'll start seeing games taking advantage of that technology and then by then the 6+ cores will be out at the same prices(ridiculous) as the 920's are.

An SSD or selling your 460 and going to a single 480 will show the best bang for your buck atm.
As long as you keep your case clean and use evga precision(or something like it) to force the fan to 79-81%(sweet spot in sound for my case, can barely hear it) cooling will be very little of an issue. With the latest drivers I have never seen my card go past 91C and only then with a benchmark. Gaming I rarely hit 80C unless I'm showing off Metro maxed lol
Alright that's good news. I probably won't sell it, but just use step up because it's a better alternative for me. It's nice to know that the 480 isn't as devilish hot as people say it is. One more question: Have you ever tried overclocking it at all? And what case do you have that you say that you can't hear the fan at 81%? Because I have an Antec 1200, and when my 460's fan is at 60% and above, I can hear it pretty clearly.
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Alright that's good news. I probably won't sell it, but just use step up because it's a better alternative for me. It's nice to know that the 480 isn't as devilish hot as people say it is. One more question: Have you ever tried overclocking it at all? And what case do you have that you say that you can't hear the fan at 81%? Because I have an Antec 1200, and when my 460's fan is at 60% and above, I can hear it pretty clearly.
Hmm well I have my own tolerance as well. Living in Kelowna I have an AC unit running all the time to keep the temps around 25-26C at home and a big house fan to push that air around.
I have an older thermal take armor(before the big side fan was added) with 7 internal fans as well. I can hear when EVGA precision boots up and ramps up the fan speed, but after that it just kind of melds into the white noise after a while.

If you keep the computer in your room, your room WILL get hot, the card does push a lot of warm air into the room. On the plus side though the card idles in windows at 43C and I've seen it hold that temp in my case with the fan at 20%. So it is pretty efficient, at cooling itself down. So if the computer is in your room you can definitely set up profiles to change the fan speed according to temperature and keep the noise levels down.

In my case personally fan noise doesn't bother me though, so my opinion is very subjective.

I am jealous of your CPU, if I could find one for cheap and a new 775 mobo I would jump on it, they are great chips.
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Hmm well I have my own tolerance as well. Living in Kelowna I have an AC unit running all the time to keep the temps around 25-26C at home and a big house fan to push that air around.
I have an older thermal take armor(before the big side fan was added) with 7 internal fans as well. I can hear when EVGA precision boots up and ramps up the fan speed, but after that it just kind of melds into the white noise after a while.

If you keep the computer in your room, your room WILL get hot, the card does push a lot of warm air into the room. On the plus side though the card idles in windows at 43C and I've seen it hold that temp in my case with the fan at 20%. So it is pretty efficient, at cooling itself down. So if the computer is in your room you can definitely set up profiles to change the fan speed according to temperature and keep the noise levels down.

In my case personally fan noise doesn't bother me though, so my opinion is very subjective.

I am jealous of your CPU, if I could find one for cheap and a new 775 mobo I would jump on it, they are great chips.
Thank you so much for your detailed response. Right now I am almost completely fixed on stepping up to a gtx 480 in mid September. Hopefully re installing the thermal paste would bring the temps down a bit.
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But the thing is, I want some games to be on my SSD for better performance: GTA4 (15gb BAM), Bad Company, COD4, etc.

So basically I want to be able to install a portion on my steam games on my ssd and a portion on my storage drive.
I personally have noticed absolutely no difference in load times between running games off my SSD and my normal HD. There may be a few seconds here and there, but it's nothing significant. The main benefit of SSDs is in random access time, and even then, aside from improved boot times, I haven't seen any real benefits from that.
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