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Old November 22, 2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Need quick advice! (HD 3870 / 8800 GTS 112SP)

Should I go for the HD3870 at $275.64 ($249, the $240 version doesn't have The Black Box at Extreme-PC; OOS everywhere else) OR should I get the 112SP version of the EVGA 8800GTS for ~$300 ($310-$30 MIR; not the version with Crysis, unfortunately).

I'm looking at paying $65 more right now, but the difference would only be $25 after the MIR.

The bonus with the 3870 is that I get The Black Box, and that the new BIOS is out which allows for overclocking up to 900MHz on stock cooling without volt mods (waiting for people to come up with vmods to go over 900), it has HD decoding, AND it's quieter. Bad: slower than 8800, regular price.

On the 8800GTS KO side of things, it's got the EVGA lifetime warranty + step-up program, it's considerably faster than the 3870 at stock (not sure at OC speeds of both). This is also on sale, the lowest I've seen it is US$330 after a $30 MIR at Newegg. However, it is also noisier, has no HD decoding, and does not come with The Black Box or Crysis; EVGA also recently stopped using USPS for step-up to Canada, that means $45 FedEx+brokerage.

I need to choose quickly, because I've already placed my order with NCIX, and I would like to change my order (if necessary) before they ship. Noise is fairly important for me at idle; is the 8800GTS 112SP louder than, say, 25dBA at idle?
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Old November 22, 2007, 01:43 PM
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I'd go for the 8800 GTS...just because of the step-up program...you'll recieve great performance and it is actually very quiet! And as soon as the new cards come out, which should be shortly....you'll step it up a notch!
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Old November 22, 2007, 01:59 PM
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I'd go for the 8800 GTS...just because of the step-up program...you'll recieve great performance and it is actually very quiet! And as soon as the new cards come out, which should be shortly....you'll step it up a notch!
The step-up program is a great bonus, but so is the warranty. ATI board makers need to step up to the plate, and give some decent warranties.It sounds like you really want the black-box/Crysis... which should tell you there. Unless every last bit of performance matters, then the 3870 makes sense. If it doesn't meet your standards(and you have an appropriate board), you can throw in a 2nd 3870....or even a 3850.
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Old November 22, 2007, 03:15 PM
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Step up program is a joke as you usually have to pay duties and taxes for them to ship it back and etc.
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Dollar for Dollar, the 3870 is the best deal out there right now. Plus, even with stock cooling, the overclocking is great
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Step up program is a joke as you usually have to pay duties and taxes for them to ship it back and etc.
It still beats selling your current card(at a huge loss), then buying another. But that 90 days flies by fast.
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Default depends on the resolution as well

I think the GTS 112SP will perform better at higher resolutions: 1600*1050 or there abouts. Im not sure about the stepup...(to G92 GTS?) if you have to pay shipping, customs etc. Personally I would only buy a G92 core if I were going the nvidia route.

One advantage of ATI is they seem to scale well in crossfire so you always add another when you need to. I would never take the SLI option with Nvidia.

Anyway both are great cards for the price
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Old November 22, 2007, 07:49 PM
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You guys aren't helpful at all! Getting mixed views here.

I can't go CF unless I sell my mobo, since I'm running 680i, and I'd have to sell my pretty Ninja with it (since I had to hack up the backplate so it doesn't crush the resistors on the back). So, I suppose that gives the 8800GTS an edge here.

If someone can come up with a volt mod, the 3870 will probably hit 950MHz on the core easily. However, no one has any real overclocking results or benchmarks for the 112SP 8800GTS. I'm really interested in seeing how much wider the gap will get between it and the 8800GT once those shader clocks are turned up to 1500 (they've been known to hit 1600 easily).

You know what, I'll stick with the 8800GTS. It comes with Quake Wars, which I already have, so I could sell it for cheap and clear that difference, though I still won't have Crysis or TF2, so I need to buy those... Nor will I get a chance to see the overclocking magic of a vmodded 3870. Well, at least I'll have the comfort of flying around Flight Simulator X in DX10 with everything turned up on the 3rd (or 4th come Dec 3) fastest card available.

Thanks for the input guys!
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We can't make the decision for you. We can just present reasons that one is better/worse than the other.... and still.. it all boils down to your budget, wants/needs and current HW. GL no matter which you get.
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