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Old March 29, 2010, 09:46 PM
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Anyways, sure we may do a dedicated thermals article.
Good call SKY!

I'm sure that most "possible" FERMI buyers are ALL waiting for more thermal info/testing.
We NEED to know how the card behaves in normal gaming condition in a well ventilated gaming case (all on AIR). The watercooled "cool" guys are no the norm.

I NEED to know if the FERMI will run at 95degrees in my Antec 300 in-game or not. 80degrees celsius would be a lot more acceptable. Weren't the 8800GTS (G80) and 8800GTX running at 80-some degrees also?

If I don't get more info from a reputable source (you ) I'll go ATI...but ATI still have issues too with different bugs and stuff.
I'd rather stick with nVIDIA..
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Old March 29, 2010, 11:36 PM
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For me, it's pretty shitty. I don't game much but I do fold 24/7. And these cards use WAY too much power and run WAY too hot for me to consider purchasing one or more. I doubt newer drivers will make much of difference in the power draw. It's too bad ATI cards don't fold better.

And btw, it's about time MarkOne was shown the door. I'm surprised it took this long.
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I have heard of a few people who can't even get past stock. I am serious, 851mHz and it crashes. More than one person too.
Possibly they had an insufficient PSU or some stability problems or the card was faulty. A fully functional card on a fully functional system isn't going to notice 1Mhz even if you could raise just 1 Mhz which you cant because the clock generator goes up in 2's or 3's.

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Other reviews aren't necessarily quoting the same prices. Nvidia has less "cheap" brands than ATI (Palit maybe but ATI has Powercolour and that bunch) so they might be getting very different results for prices - warranty and support isn't just brand-to-brand, Nvidia does tend to have less "bad" brands.
All of the release ATI cards were made by ATI. The same as all the release Nvidia cards are made by Nvidia. Down to the coolers used. The only difference in the brands is the warranty and package contents which are comparible between ATI and Nvidia.

If you compare the MSI versions of the 5850 and 470 which are the cheapest versions of each card on newegg the difference is $50 which is around 16%. So the 5850 does have better performance per dollar even if you use USA prices which have the smallest difference. In europe the minimum price difference is $110.

Edit - Also Nvidia just lost one of its better brands in regards to warranty http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/video/xfx-jumps-gtx-480-gtx-470-ship/

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ati fan boy here not really but i mean this is all we get for waiting 2 1/2 years no thanks. jm2cents
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ati fan boy here not really but i mean this is all we get for waiting 2 1/2 years no thanks. jm2cents
You were waiting for Fermi since 2007? That sucks.............
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Old March 30, 2010, 10:32 AM
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Edit - Also Nvidia just lost one of its better brands in regards to warranty XFX Jumps Off GTX 480 / GTX 470 Ship | Hardware Canucks
Also, I noticed here that this Mwave page that got upload early shows all the AIB of GTX4XX cards indicating Only ONE Year warranties?
E-Tail Watch: GTX 470 is $350, GTX 480 is $500, OC models available - Bright Side Of News*

That's a tell-tale sign thae AIB don't have much faith... I mean EVGA not giving their LIFETIME warranty?
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you'll get lifetime warranty upon product registration with evga, unles the official evga is wrong, which i doubt

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Old March 30, 2010, 11:07 AM
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Did the prices for the cards change in two days? I've checked the price for the 470 (at CIPC, for example) and the 470 is seeling for much more than the 5850, for example (419 vs 324), which would make the review conclusion quite different.

Have you checked the prices again or is it only a local phenomenon in Montreal?a 30% premium for 10-15% better perf. is not exciting at all. And here I was hoping ATI's prices would come down...
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MSRP is MSRP. Some retailers choose to follow it while others don't. As such, any changes made by a few retailers based on pre-sale pricing will never be factored into the review.
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Also, I noticed here that this Mwave page that got upload early shows all the AIB of GTX4XX cards indicating Only ONE Year warranties?
E-Tail Watch: GTX 470 is $350, GTX 480 is $500, OC models available - Bright Side Of News*

That's a tell-tale sign thae AIB don't have much faith... I mean EVGA not giving their LIFETIME warranty?
The EVGA cards' model numbers end with AR, so they do come with lifetime warranties. The listing is incorrect. The ASUS cards also probably have 3-year warranties.
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