Comment Thread for GTX 480 and GTX 470 Reviews

[MonsterSound]

I am a bit curious about differing heat and noise statements from some reviewers. For instance, from overclockersclub;

Originally Posted by overclockersclub

Bump the fan speed to 100% and you get temperatures in the mid 60C range. However, you do have a noise penalty when doing this. At a fan speed of 70% I found a good solid balance between noise and temperatures. 80 Celsius is where the temperature peaked in my well ventilated Stacker 810 case.

Whereas you observe;

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Interestingly enough, the fan stays relatively quiet (subjectively approaching that of the HD 5970) throughout this massive increase in temperatures.

That a pretty interesting difference, 80°C@70% vs. 95°C@what? Any other fan speed/temp data observed? More data on this might be interesting. I.e. x Temp at y fan speed (under load of course). After all, tolerable loudness may be fairly subjective, but temp and fan speed data, not so much.
Is there a thermal/fan speed profile issue that is prompting such critical hyperbole? (re: 480/470 noise and heat / power draw notwithstanding)
just curious
(p.s. I hope it's not bad etiquette to post quotes from other sites.)

[Maxfps]

Every review I read is followed up by people defending their card purchases like they are defending their own child. Pathetic but mildly amusing.

[MonsterSound]

Originally Posted by Maxfps

Every review I read is followed up by people defending their card purchases like they are defending their own child. Pathetic but mildly amusing.

Still, many of us are trying to get more details. I for one wonder why nVidia could not get higher DDR5 speeds. Seems like an important miss.

[BrianHanna]

lackluster release imo.

cards that cost around 200 dollars more and only rarely outperform the 6 month old 5850 or 5870.

[Casecutter]

Is there any truth to that Mwave page that went up and came down showing GTX4XX AIB Sku's and they all showed 1-year warranties?

To judge price/performance on ATI current market price against Nvidia MSRP means nothing. Wasn’t the 5870 MSRP $259? I’m sure Nvidia pipeline will be a trickle for at least 2 months, the chance of purchasing GTX4XX at MSRP won’t happen till end May.

Once the market settles in things change, but I’ll bet ATI (AIB’s) can go $15 below MSRP and still see great margins right today, actually I think it been the retail that that manipulated that price the most. I would think the ATI chip pipeline is finally starting to flow decent; while Nvidias’ pipeline will trickle for at least 2 months.

Would I pay $359 on April 12th for a GXT470 while there could be one or two 5850 $249 -AR (that's like 45% more)? Then knowing you could watch $50 on a GXT470 evaporate by July/August? It reminds me of the orginal GTX 260 that had AIB sending first adopter checks to keep them happy, but this time there will be no checks.

[SKYMTL]

Originally Posted by MonsterSound

I am a bit curious about differing heat and noise statements from some reviewers. For instance, from overclockersclub;
Whereas you observe;That a pretty interesting difference, 80°C@70% vs. 95°C@what? And is that what you observed? Any other fanspeed/temp data observed? More data on this might be interesting. I.e. x Temp at y fanspeed (under load of course). After all, tolerable loudness may be fairly subjective, but temp and fanspeed data, not so much.
Is there a poor thermal/fanspeed profile issue that is prompting such critical hyperbole? (re: 480/470 noise and heat / power draw notwithstanding)
just curious
(p.s. I hope it's not bad etiquette to post quotes from other sites.)

Huh? I see them manually setting fan speed....

Anyways, sure we may do a dedicated thermals article.

[FtGF]

This thread, what a way to take something cool and ruin it. Makes me ashamed to be a computer geek, and some of you are old enough to be my dad. Scary..........................

[Sushi Warrior]

Originally Posted by sideeffect

I havn't seen anyone mention anywhere that they have had a problem clocking a 5870 at 925Mhz seems hard to believe from the general results reported at only a modest voltage bump. Perhaps ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, Sapphire have more stringent TDP guidelines than Nvidia used for the fermi.

I have heard of a few people who can't even get past stock. I am serious, 851mHz and it crashes. More than one person too.

Originally Posted by sideeffect

Possibly if it was selling for the same price and only then if you don't include electricity bills. As it stands now the 5850 wins at both performance per dollar and performance per watt according to pretty much every other review in the world.

Other reviews aren't necessarily quoting the same prices. Nvidia has less "cheap" brands than ATI (Palit maybe but ATI has Powercolour and that bunch) so they might be getting very different results for prices - warranty and support isn't just brand-to-brand, Nvidia does tend to have less "bad" brands.

[_dangtx_]

Originally Posted by Sushi Warrior

I have heard of a few people who can't even get past stock. I am serious, 851mHz and it crashes. More than one person too.



Other reviews aren't necessarily quoting the same prices. Nvidia has less "cheap" brands than ATI (Palit maybe but ATI has Powercolour and that bunch) so they might be getting very different results for prices - warranty and support isn't just brand-to-brand, Nvidia does tend to have less "bad" brands.

thats a locked bios i think. if it were because of stability or anything like that it would crash when warmed up and such as well. had to flash a nasty anti overclocker lol a little while ago with another co's bios.

[Sushi Warrior]

Originally Posted by _dangtx_

thats a locked bios i think. if it were because of stability or anything like that it would crash when warmed up and such as well. had to flash a nasty anti overclocker lol a little while ago with another co's bios.

Same thing either way, even enthusiasts don't like flashing BIOS's that much...