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Old January 2, 2009, 07:17 AM
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Right now, my choice would go on the HD3650

Is a 8600 GT a good option too ?

XFX GeForce 8600 GT Video Card - 512MB DDR2, PCI Express, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) DVI, VGA, HDTV, Video Card PVT84JYAJG in Canada at TigerDirect.ca

The price seems OK also.
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Old January 2, 2009, 10:39 AM
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Is a 8600 GT a good option too ?
XFX GeForce 8600 GT Video Card - 512MB DDR2
The price seems OK also.
For gaming I cannot recommend any card with GDDR2; the game will get choppy when it's loadng textures, like if your character turns around or you go from "indoors" to "outdoors" in an FPS. Try to find a GDDR3-equipped card at least.
The GeForce 8600 GTS is comparable to the Radeon HD 3650. The GT is a slower card. See the comparison here: GeForce 8600

Here's a comparison between an 8600 GT and a Radeon 2600XT, which has about the same performance as the Radeon HD 3650.
bit-tech.net | Review - Radeon HD 2600 XT vs. GeForce 8600 GT
In short, the Radeon 3650 will be worth the extra money over the 8600 GT.
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Old January 31, 2009, 06:34 AM
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Back again for one last question.

After examining different alternatives, I've found this card (ATI HD3650) on newegg :

Newegg.ca - POWERCOLOR AX3650 512MD3-P Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

The price seems right, it is within my budget but does anyone knows this company ? Not many reviews on the net for this specific card...

Thanks again !
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Old January 31, 2009, 08:07 AM
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Take a look at this XFX 4650 card. Less money, no PST, newer generation, better company.

NCIX.com - Buy XFX Radeon HD 4650 600MHZ 512MB 800MHZ DDR2 PCI-E DVI VGA TV Out Video Card - HD465XYAFC In Canada.
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Old January 31, 2009, 01:18 PM
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Take a look at this XFX 4650 card. Less money, no PST, newer generation, better company.

NCIX.com - Buy XFX Radeon HD 4650 600MHZ 512MB 800MHZ DDR2 PCI-E DVI VGA TV Out Video Card - HD465XYAFC In Canada.
Thanks for the suggestion but I'm puzzled...

The Radeon HD 4650 is also one of my alternatives but the XFX has a DDR2 memory type while the Powercolor HD 3650 has a GDDR3.

Does it really matter ? :help:
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Thanks for the suggestion but I'm puzzled...

The Radeon HD 4650 is also one of my alternatives but the XFX has a DDR2 memory type while the Powercolor HD 3650 has a GDDR3.

Does it really matter ? :help:
Seeing how the HD4650 is a faster GPU, I think even having DDR2 would still make it faster than the HD3650 with DDR3.

Also I trust XFX way more than Powercolor as far as support and quality of products goes.
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Right now the best bang for your bucks is the HD4830 , If you play games at resolution 1280x1024, you will have no problem even with crysis. With settings lower than 1680x1050, the HD4830's perform just well as the 4850; only with a 2-5 FPS differences.

And 2 HD 4830 ($240) performs almost as well as a GTX 280 ($320), That is if you have a CrossFire board
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Right now the best bang for your bucks is the HD4830 , If you play games at resolution 1280x1024, you will have no problem even with crysis
ehh, I have to disagree, a 2.6 gig Pentium D running Crysis wiith "no problem" on a 4830? Either way, please update this thread once you decide on a gpu. I'm interested if the cpu is going to be a severe bottleneck.

Ps. going from a pentium D to a Core i7 is a huge jump, IMO maybe you should upgrade to a E5200 or something similiar. If you only play rts and rpg's mainly it'll last you a good few years.

When/if you get oblivion running decently you should check out fallout 3, its an excellent rpg IMO



Edit: Just remembered, seeing as many people are recommending a PCI Express 2.0x16 card, will these even work with a PCI Express 1.0x16? Too lazy to google but thought it might be important for the OP.

I doubt Diablo III or Starcraft II will need anything more than a mid level dual core and half decent video card.

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I ran a Radeon 4850 off the Intel 965 chipset with my old Dell, so PCIE 2.0 card + PCIE 1.0 slot will work. You'll take a bandwidth penalty, although the Pentium D and 1GB RAM will bottleneck first.
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ehh, I have to disagree, a 2.6 gig Pentium D running Crysis wiith "no problem" on a 4830? Either way, please update this thread once you decide on a gpu. I'm interested if the cpu is going to be a severe bottleneck.

Ps. going from a pentium D to a Core i7 is a huge jump, IMO maybe you should upgrade to a E5200 or something similiar. If you only play rts and rpg's mainly it'll last you a good few years.
First, thanks everyone for the answers/advices...

The HD3650's are gone; so I think I finally found something that will fit my needs :

Newegg.ca - BIOSTAR VA4653NH51 Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

It can handle some gaming, GDDR3 memory, could be used on a HTPC... and within my budget. Certainly better than my x550.

I don't plan on playing Crysis with this; maybe try the demo that's all.

I also don't plan on upgrading the CPU, I don't know the upgrading possibilities of my emachines mobo; that's a path I'm not inclined to take.

Before changing the CPU, I will add more RAM (2 strips of 1GB each - the maximum my system can handle), this way my system might not bottleneck too much.

Again thanks everyone !
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