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Old September 24, 2008, 08:12 PM
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It really depends on what game I am playing and how much AA and AF I want to put into the mix. On average I am game mostly at 1680x1050 with max in game settings with Antiailasing enabled with the exception of Crysis and Crysis Warhead. I have found that at 1920x1200 that my framrate is just barely maintaining 30-40fps and when the action starts the fluid like gameplay disappears. Older titles like F.E.A.R, Quake 4, and other older FPS @ 1920x1200 its pretty much a cake walk for my videosetup.

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Old September 24, 2008, 08:51 PM
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Wow that is impressive ...even with the UPC code gone...I guess we can look forward to large open box sales from DC and NCIX I am guessing they are having these kinda requests often
- yeah no kidding, I was very impressed with Dc on this one. They had originally told me that they would not accept it without the Bar Code, but they (out of the blue) must have reviewed the email I sent Brad and decided to re-imburse me (minus the MIR)...! Vert nicely done DC.."Brad" check out further cudos on Evga and NVidia Sli Zone Web Sites!!
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I would just keep the GTX260 192. Jumping through that many hoops for 24 shaders is not worth it IMHO. Plus the GTX260 overclocks like crazy. I have mine at 756/1512/2500 without even bumping the voltage in the BIOS (I am at 1.06V). At those clocks you are in GTX280 territory for anything but the highest resolutions.
Thats you,,,,not me, as said it will compliment my 24" Samsung native 1920 x 1200 nicely! My 260 FTW edition OC's insane as well, but it still isn't a 280 !
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Old September 25, 2008, 06:05 AM
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Thats you,,,,not me, as said it will compliment my 24" Samsung native 1920 x 1200 nicely! My 260 FTW edition OC's insane as well, but it still isn't a 280 !
Well you asked our opinion so by definiton whatever I say is "me" and whatever you end up doing is "you"

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Old September 25, 2008, 11:48 AM
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Well you asked our opinion so by definiton whatever I say is "me" and whatever you end up doing is "you"
Sorry, don't recall asking you opinion at all, as for additional Cores, my 260 was 192 Shader Cores and I was considering purchasing the 216 Core to go SLI, for a couple of reasons, first, it is pretty much the same price as a 192 Core and no one could come up with a definitive answer as to whether SLI would be taking advantage of the additional Cores. Anyhow, after coming to the conclusion, through much research that the SLI set-up would be somewhat "crippled" (192 & a 216) I said "to hell with it" and will stick to my "Single Card Solution".
As I do have a 24" monitor and prefer to game at native resolutions, along with my CPU OC, makes sense to go with the the additional 48 Shader Cores (clusters), hence the GTX280. As for a 260 being almost equal to the performance of a 280 strictly based upon "Clock Speeds" I completely disagree with that comment, you'd better do some more research on GPU Architecture.
It really is crazy though, the GPU business. I've been an avid PC Gamer / enthusiast for many years. My first Macintosh Performa had 2 MB (I think) of dedicated Graphics Memory, then my next PC I bought a Voodoo 3DFX 16 MB (whoooa), then "upgraded" to a Geforce 32MB...(then went on hiatus and "tripped" around the tropics for many years...could care less of the GPU game at that point)...then back on the scene with a 256MB 6800GT, upped to 768 MB 8800GTX, tried the 896 MB GTX260 for a few weeks...ok, finally 1GB !!
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It really depends on what game I am playing and how much AA and AF I want to put into the mix. On average I am game mostly at 1680x1050 with max in game settings with Antiailasing enabled with the exception of Crysis and Crysis Warhead. I have found that at 1920x1200 that my framrate is just barely maintaining 30-40fps and when the action starts the fluid like gameplay disappears. Older titles like F.E.A.R, Quake 4, and other older FPS @ 1920x1200 its pretty much a cake walk for my videosetup.

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I think it would be better to save up for a Core2 setup, while keeping the 8800gt's. I just picked up another 8800gt for my rig and so far the results are disappointing.

I went from ~37-45 fps @ 1680 in Mass Effect to 45-60fps @ 1920x1200 at the same settings going to SLI. COD4 is a massive improvement I can use AA and all the bells and whistles at 1920 and still never drop below 40fps, usually around the 90-125 mark.

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Old September 25, 2008, 08:27 PM
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I agree Fracture I think I will reap the benefits with a more powerful system then dropping a faster videocard in, although I'll admit I have thought a little about getting a GTX 280 but I think that would be overkill for my system and I would have to spend additional money on a more powerful powersupply unit. Given the current prices I could easily get a pretty kickass core 2 duo sytem for a little more than $400 about the price of a GTX 280 at this point and time. I will certainly keep what you said in mind and maybe over the next month you might just see me with entirely different setup. The only big question I need to ask myself is whether I stick with nVidia or if I moved to an intel system and chipset that I switch to ATI, the prices on the 4870 just keep falling and the crossfire benches I have seen are very impressive sometimes better then the 4870x2 at times.

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Sorry, don't recall asking you opinion at all,
My bad. I assumed the the title of the post "Help, Need some advice on a upgrade from a GTX260 " was a call for opinions. Guess I need to study English a little more.

edit: Sorry. I mistakenly thought you were the original poster so... no you didn't ask for my opinion. But then again, isn't a forum all about opinions?

And I was not saying that a GTX 260 is the same as a GTX280. I understand the ramifications of the extra shaders and wider memory bus. My intent was to say that if you already have a GTX260 then with a little overclocking you can get "into the range of" a GTX 280. Not an overclocked GTX280 of course.

But the question being raised is one of economics... "Is it worth upgrading" has a cost to go from GTX260 to GTX280 of about $140 give or take. Each person will answer that question differently depending on their needs. My needs don't justify the $140 but YMMV of course.
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Old September 26, 2008, 11:00 AM
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Agree, everyones needs are based upon requirements and $$$. Me....?....I seem to always lean towards the new technology, with a little "thought process" on cost, but I emphaise, "a littel"..hahahah. Drives my wife crazy sometimes...with that said, dropping upwards of $500 on a "top-of-the-line" GPU is normal for myself, however, I draw the line at $500, I would never drop more than that, as in folks that purchased the 280 when they were first introduced,,,,crazy! But, then again, every "enthusiast" has a different concept of what their Budget is.
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