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Old October 18, 2013, 06:02 AM
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Hoping someone can help me. I thought I had a good grasp on building a computer, and my very first project is turning out to be a semi-disaster. Bear with me, my terminology may be off..

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Intel Core i3-3220T, Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) - My Custom Build - squadz's Saved Part List - PCPartPicker Canada

Here's the issues:

1. Case Fans: So, I have cables for both fans with Molex (?) connectors at the end. I took the cable that came with my power supply that had similar connectors, connected them, then put one end in my power supply (on the PCI-E side, as the Sata & Peripherals side's both ports are full) and the other end into the SYS_FAN port. They don't turn on or do anything.

2. RAM: I have 2 4GB sticks. Put 1 4GB stick in, and the computer turns on and runs fine. When I put the second in, it boots up for 5-10 seconds, nothing on screen, then restarts and loops.

3. Cables: I have an SSD for OS, and 2 1TB drives for data, but I'm not sure how to use the cables. Currently, the SSD is in SATA3_0, and one of the 1TB drives is in SATA3_1. My DVD/RW is in SATA2_? (not sure). My issue is, my power supply only has two ports for Sata & Peripherals, and I have a total of four devices (SSD, 2 drives, DVD/RW) that need power. What to do? Currently one drive isn't connected because I cant. I want to RAID1 the two drives, if that makes a difference at all.

I'm sorry if it's fairly jumbled, I did the best I could with the knowledge I have. Hoping someone can help me!
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Old October 18, 2013, 06:09 AM
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1. Your Case fans should have connectors that look like this:

They should plug into the motherboard fan headers that look like this:

The ones on your motherboard are black, not white.
The header shown is a 4-pin. You can plug a 3 pin connector into a 4-pin header. Some motherboard fan headers can be 3-pin, too.

2. Hmm, the RAM part is weird. Did you try booting with each individual stick? I suppose it's possible (however unlikely) that you have 1 bad stick of RAM. Maybe there is a bios setting that has to be turned on to run in dual channel. Somebody else may help you with this.

3. The Corsair website shows your Powersupply as having 4x SATA connectors, so you should have enough for 1 SSD, 2 HDD's, and one DVD. Not sure why you don't have enough...
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Old October 18, 2013, 06:18 AM
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One of the fans can go directly into the SYS_FAN spot, without any adaptor. You can use the 3-pin fan to Molex adaptor to hook up the other fan directly to your powersupply.
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Old October 18, 2013, 06:20 AM
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3. Cables: I have an SSD for OS, and 2 1TB drives for data, but I'm not sure how to use the cables. Currently, the SSD is in SATA3_0, and one of the 1TB drives is in SATA3_1. My DVD/RW is in SATA2_? (not sure). My issue is, my power supply only has two ports for Sata & Peripherals, and I have a total of four devices (SSD, 2 drives, DVD/RW) that need power. What to do? Currently one drive isn't connected because I cant. I want to RAID1 the two drives, if that makes a difference at all.
I think I understand now. Your powersupply only has 2 Ports, but each cable with have multiple connectors on it.
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Old October 18, 2013, 06:22 AM
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helping...

1. Your Case fans should have connectors that look like this:

They should plug into the motherboard fan headers that look like this:

The ones on your motherboard are black, not white.
The header shown is a 4-pin. You can plug a 3 pin connector into a 4-pin header. Some motherboard fan headers can be 3-pin, too.

2. Hmm, the RAM part is weird. Did you try booting with each individual stick? I suppose it's possible (however unlikely) that you have 1 bad stick of RAM. Maybe there is a bios setting that has to be turned on to run in dual channel. Somebody else may help you with this.

3. The Corsair website shows your Powersupply as having 4x SATA connectors, so you should have enough for 1 SSD, 2 HDD's, and one DVD. Not sure why you don't have enough...
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One of the fans can go directly into the SYS_FAN spot, without any adaptor. You can use the 3-pin fan to Molex adaptor to hook up the other fan directly to your powersupply.
Appreciate you helping me.

1. That makes sense. I will try that, but I think I'll run out of spots in the power supply..

2. I've been using the RAM for quite some time now in my other machine, so I doubt it's the RAM. I'll check the BIOS.

3. See the picture here: CORSAIR CX430M 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com. There are three spots with the same port, and one with a larger port. Because of the layout of the case, I cant connect my DVD/RW and another drive with the same cable, so that's one port. I might be able to connect my SSD/1TB drive with one cable, and then I need another cable for the other 1TB drive, so that's 3x ports I need to plug in to the power supply. Is this the best way?
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Old October 18, 2013, 06:26 AM
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Run you SATA power cable to your SSD and your 2 HDD's, which should all be close together. IF you can't reach the DVD with the SATA power cable, then use a Molex to SATA adaptor, and run it from one of your Molex power connectors to your Powersupply.

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Run you SATA power cable to your SSD and your 2 HDD's, which should all be close together. IF you can't reach the DVD with the SATA power cable, then use a Molex to SATA adaptor, and run it from one of your Molex power connectors to your Powersupply.

I will try that. The only issue I see is that the SATA power cable only has two available connectors, so I can only connect a maximum of two devices with one SATA cable.
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You should have 2x SATA power cables, x2 connectors per cable, = 4 connectors total.
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Old October 18, 2013, 06:36 AM
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What power supply do you have? Sounds to be a bad one or insufficient.
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Old October 18, 2013, 06:45 AM
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You should have 2x SATA power cables, x2 connectors per cable, = 4 connectors total.
Correct, I believe that's what I have, which is where the issue arises and I may need to get another cable. 1 SATA cable covers my SSD + 1 drive, the other covers the other drive, and my DVD/RW is left with no cable (there's no way to reach it with the cable, the space between the connectors isn't long enough). I will try the Molex approach you said as well.

I will take another look tonight now that I have a better idea of what to do.
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