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Old April 15, 2015, 11:34 AM
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Shows you how far behind the times I am......

Just got my very first win 8/8.1 OEM rig and I'm trying to migrate the boot disk over to SSD, but seagate acronis is telling me that the destination drive won't boot after the fact because the rig I'm using isn't set to uefi boot in bios (it's set to both uefi and legacy).

Am I missing something simple here? Is there an easy way to do this that I'm not aware of?

How about just installing fresh from windows 8 USB media? Would it pick up the 8.1 key? (I'd have to play with the bios settings as it won't boot from USB the way it's currently configured... just guessing that I'd have to turn off secure boot and select legacy).

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.......

The Dell's HDD does actually boot on my main rig when it's set to uefi (sans drivers of course) so what if I installed acronis on it while it's connected to the dell and then rebooted it while it was connected to my main rig and run acronis from there?

This really shouldn't be all that hard... I must be missing something simple.
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Old April 15, 2015, 12:01 PM
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Would an external USB drive caddy work?
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I have to use Acronis 2014 to clone SSDs with an UEFI OS (a la W8). Earlier versions are not compatible.
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Old April 15, 2015, 07:26 PM
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I finally got it using 2014 but I had to put the source disk into a USB HDD enclosure, install the destination disk in the PC, and then boot off of an Acronis formatted Boot USB to perform the cloning operation. (Oh, and turn off secure boot in bios so that I could boot off of something other than the HDD/SSD).

Currently cursing at windows 8.1 touch..... :)
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Good to hear you got it running.
I love my W8.1 touch on my Twist.
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I'm sure it's just a matter of getting used to it, however I do find it's a lot less intuitive than using stock android.

Currently looking at browsers and the screen format isn't portrait mode friendly without dropping down the zoom.
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So.... update #2........

Nothing like letting my ignorance of how windows 8 OEM works WRT keys turn what should be a simple task into something damn near epic in wasted time.......

Simple task = Swapping an SSD for the slowpoke 5400 RPM mechanical drive that ships with this Dell I just bought.

- First mistake was being concerned about not getting windows install media (or a method of backing up the factory install) on this little Dell because it's a Microsoft Signature edition. I normally burn the factory restore disks immediately after turning on a new laptop / OEM and would have restored that directly to the new SSD but the signature edition doesn't have that option.

- Second mistake was attempting to clone the HDD on a PC that hadn't been booted as UEFI.... the warnings I got were essentially that it would clone the drive but that the destination drive wouldn't be bootable.

- Following that were unsuccessful attempts to backup to external HDD and then restore to the SSD from backup, or clone with the SSD installed in the laptop and source disk in a USB drive caddy. Both of these attempts resulted in flaky OS storage results (check HDD errors and slow transfers) that I suspect were the result of not ensuring the secondary partitions didn't get resized down along with the main partition.

- Finally gave up and decided to try a fresh install using my own keys and media, but my available legit keys are windows 8.0 so I installed that only to discover that several of the drivers would only install on 8.1, and that one of those drivers happened to be the bloody wireless driver (no ethernet port on this beastie). My backup USB wireless dongle happens to be a nice enough high speed N, but Linksys for some strange reason refuses to release a windows 8 driver for it so I had to go out and purchase a new win8 compatible one in order to connect to the network and update my win 8.0 install.

- After all that, updates completed, win 8.1 installed and then find that windows refuses to initiate the HID Sensor Collection which is required for the screen orientation motion sensors. No real info on this WRT solutions but older posts seem to indicate it might be related to the upgrade from windows 8 to 8.1. Everything else seemed to be working fine, but decided to put it down for the night.


This was over two days and doesn't include the call to MS about install media, and a subsequent call to Dell where I was informed that I'll have to transfer ownership from microsoft to myself before they can supply any support..

Finally today a light came on and I remembered that it's possible to create legit windows install media direct from MS ( Create installation media for Windows 8.1 - Windows Help ) so I reinstalled the mechanical HDD, used Nirsoft Produkey ( ProduKey - Recover lost product key (CD-Key) of Windows/MS-Office/SQL Server ) to get the OEM key from both bios and the windows install, created a bootable USB key using an 8.1 iso I got from the create media link) and did a fresh install onto the SSD from there.

Happy to report that everything now seems to be up and running correctly, and that the install even picked up the built in windows key without any issues.

TLDR: I spent 2 1/2 days trying to clone a UEFI drive and messing around with windows 8.0 installs when all I needed to do was go to microsoft and create a windows 8.1 bootable USB.
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