Go Back   Hardware Canucks > HARDWARE > Storage

    
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old November 20, 2012, 10:13 AM
SKYMTL's Avatar
HardwareCanuck Review Editor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Montreal
Posts: 11,648
Default Western Digital Launches Massive 4TB Black Edition Hard Drive

In an effort to compete against lower capacity SSDs, Western Digital is shooting for storage stardom with the new Black Edition 4TB.

Read more here: Western Digital Launches Massive 4TB Black Edition Hard Drive | Hardware Canucks
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old November 20, 2012, 10:56 AM
MVP
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 344

My System Specs

Default

The first thing that comes to mind when I read the title...
"Soooo much data down the drain if/when it fails!"
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old November 20, 2012, 11:00 AM
NyteOwl's Avatar
Allstar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 905
Default

They're going to have trouble selling that price tag to the tech savvy at least. At that kind of pricing one might as well buy enterprise grade drives.
__________________
Obsolescence is just a lack of imagination.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old November 20, 2012, 11:05 AM
SKYMTL's Avatar
HardwareCanuck Review Editor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Montreal
Posts: 11,648
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NyteOwl View Post
They're going to have trouble selling that price tag to the tech savvy at least. At that kind of pricing one might as well buy enterprise grade drives.
Last I checked, the RE 3TB was sitting around the $390 mark....
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old November 20, 2012, 11:05 AM
BeaverBender's Avatar
MVP
F@H
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Montreal
Posts: 260

My System Specs

Default

WTH happened to the 5TB drives? Seagate announced back in 2011 that they were going to have 5TB drives in January of 2012 and here we are almost a year later still dealing with 4TB drives.
__________________
Creationists make it sound like a ‘theory’ is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night — Isaac Asimov
All thinking men are atheists — Ernest Hemingway
Faith means not wanting to know what is true — Friedrich Nietzsche


Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old November 20, 2012, 11:45 AM
Top Prospect
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Nashville
Posts: 134
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NyteOwl View Post
They're going to have trouble selling that price tag to the tech savvy at least. At that kind of pricing one might as well buy enterprise grade drives.
If you get the WD RE 4Tb, it'll cost you right about 480USD. This is 4Tb for 360USD.

I don't know about tech savvy people, but math savvy people see a value here. As for worrying about loosing the data, you can spend 1400USD to have 4 of these bad boys in a Raid10 and you have 8Tb of mirrored data. Pretty good for media server for pretty cheap.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BeaverBender View Post
WTH happened to the 5TB drives? Seagate announced back in 2011 that they were going to have 5TB drives in January of 2012 and here we are almost a year later still dealing with 4TB drives.
I know WD has 6tb externals.

As for seagate, check out this link, it's old but talks about the flooding that put back HD production until 2012. Even in the start of 2012 they didn't think they would have orders fulfilled by the end of the year.

Link

Last edited by Soultribunal; November 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old November 20, 2012, 12:11 PM
BeaverBender's Avatar
MVP
F@H
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Montreal
Posts: 260

My System Specs

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tethlah View Post
If you get the WD RE 4Tb, it'll cost you right about 480USD. This is 4Tb for 360USD.

I don't know about tech savvy people, but math savvy people see a value here. As for worrying about loosing the data, you can spend 1400USD to have 4 of these bad boys in a Raid10 and you have 8Tb of mirrored data. Pretty good for media server for pretty cheap.
Where are you getting your numbers from? When I look, I see the WD RE 4TB for under $400 without sales (and with a sale, I've seen them for $350), not $480. Frankly, for the same price, I would rather get a Seagate Contellation ES 4TB drive... comes with 128MB cache instead of the 64MB on these WD drives.

Also, I would rather put four of these in a RAID5 than RAID10, that way you get over 10TB and still don't have to worry to much about "losing" data.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tethlah View Post
I know WD has 6tb externals.

As for seagate, check out this link, it's old but talks about the flooding that put back HD production until 2012. Even in the start of 2012 they didn't think they would have orders fulfilled by the end of the year.

Link
The 6TB externals are actually two 3GB drives stuck together.
__________________
Creationists make it sound like a ‘theory’ is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night — Isaac Asimov
All thinking men are atheists — Ernest Hemingway
Faith means not wanting to know what is true — Friedrich Nietzsche



Last edited by Soultribunal; November 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old November 20, 2012, 12:55 PM
supaflyx3's Avatar
Hall Of Fame
F@H
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chilliwack BC
Posts: 2,535

My System Specs

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tethlah View Post
If you get the WD RE 4Tb, it'll cost you right about 480USD. This is 4Tb for 360USD.

I don't know about tech savvy people, but math savvy people see a value here. As for worrying about loosing the data, you can spend 1400USD to have 4 of these bad boys in a Raid10 and you have 8Tb of mirrored data. Pretty good for media server for pretty cheap.
I wouldn't call that cheap.. I'd rather spend half that for 2TB drives.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old November 20, 2012, 01:46 PM
Top Prospect
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Nashville
Posts: 134
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BeaverBender View Post
Where are you getting your numbers from? When I look, I see the WD RE 4TB for under $400 without sales (and with a sale, I've seen them for $350), not $480. Frankly, for the same price, I would rather get a Seagate Contellation ES 4TB drive... comes with 128MB cache instead of the 64MB on these WD drives.

Also, I would rather put four of these in a RAID5 than RAID10, that way you get over 10TB and still don't have to worry to much about "losing" data.

The 6TB externals are actually two 3GB drives stuck together.
I got my numbers from Newegg. And for the Raid, it's up to you how much fault tolerance you are willing to accept. I have 4Tb of movies, music, and shows, along with client data and finances, I have 0 tolerance for possible data loss. I Raid10 my SAN, and I keep backups of everything. But that's me, what you can tolerate is what makes you decide what to do with your drives.

Where do you see the RE 4Tb for under 400? Just curious, is it Canada or US? I'm in Nashville so prices in Canada usually don't apply to me (That's why I specify USD rather that CAD in my pricing)

Quote:
Originally Posted by supaflyx3 View Post
I wouldn't call that cheap.. I'd rather spend half that for 2TB drives.
Well, If you buy down here where I'm buying, to get 16Tb of 2Tb drives costs 1432USD. To buy 16Tb of 4Tb drives costs 1356USD, with half the points of failure.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old November 20, 2012, 04:36 PM
Hall Of Fame
F@H
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 1,226

My System Specs

Default

For Caviar Blacks at least the math works out to the 4TB being less than 2x2TB (Newegg regular price vs that announced MSRP), not including port multiplier or add-on SATA card and such - it remains to be seen how well the new drive would perform, but looking at the RE version, a 4TB black should easily outdo a 2TB in sequential tasks just due to areal density.

That said, who is the target audience of this particular drive? From what I'm seeing, it's just workstation users.
Gamers are better served by a SSD+smaller hard drive combo (unless they exceed 2TB of games somehow). People hogging media would be better off getting a RAID array of 2TB drives or waiting for the less expensive 4TB "Blue" or "Red" since playing a movie isn't close to saturating even the slowest >1TB drives.
__________________
"The computer programmer says they should drive the car around the block and see if the tire fixes itself." [src]
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[FS] Western Digital Mybook World Edition 1TB External Network Hard Drive kyle_L Buy/Sell & Trade 3 May 2, 2011 10:34 AM
[FS] Western Digital Black edition 640GB hard drives x4 mckchun Buy/Sell & Trade 3 November 18, 2010 12:10 AM