Hardware Canucks

Hardware Canucks (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/)
-   Storage (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/storage/)
-   -   Build Raid after the fact on win7 boot disk? (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/storage/55515-build-raid-after-fact-win7-boot-disk.html)

sswilson July 15, 2012 02:55 PM

Build Raid after the fact on win7 boot disk?
 
Looking to pick the brains of the raid gurus out there....

I'm currently running a corsair 120GB SSD as my main boot disk on my main rig and have a matching drive on the way. Is it possible to slave it into my existing setup and then build a raid on the two drives from the current boot drive?

Next question.... if I do decide to just re-install in order to build a raid, does win7 still require pre-install drivers or is it raid aware and asks for drivers during the install?

Last question.... if I were to raid it, what would be the best way to go about it including a backup on an external esata HDD to rebuild if it dies on me (no important data on the drive so backup isn't critical other than for ease of re-installation.

Thanks in advance for any tips / advice.

YoungMan July 15, 2012 04:10 PM

I'm assuming you want RAID0? Do you plan on using hardware, software, or firmware raid?

sswilson July 15, 2012 05:24 PM

Fastest possible with no real concern about losing data (although I wouldn't want to have to reload every bloody week... ;) ). I'm assuming raid 0 hardware would be the fastest correct?

Generic User #2 July 15, 2012 06:06 PM

yes, raid 0 is the 'speed' option when you have 2 drives.

so TRIM is working in raid 0 now?

YoungMan July 15, 2012 07:00 PM

No TRIM in RAID0, so expect to have those drives degrade quicker. Intel's next RST drivers (11.5) are supposed to support it in RAID0, but it's going to be limited to their chipsets with their firmware raid.

For clarification, by firmware RAID, I mean the chipset on your motherboard. Hardware raid is the expensive RAID cards you see for sale anywhere from $500-2000.

Your best option is to reinstall Windows. If you don't want to, you'd have to image your drive and then use some software to put the image back on to your assembled raid array.

sswilson July 15, 2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoungMan (Post 642430)
No TRIM in RAID0, so expect to have those drives degrade quicker. Intel's next RST drivers (11.5) are supposed to support it in RAID0, but it's going to be limited to their chipsets with their firmware raid.

For clarification, by firmware RAID, I mean the chipset on your motherboard. Hardware raid is the expensive RAID cards you see for sale anywhere from $500-2000.

Your best option is to reinstall Windows. If you don't want to, you'd have to image your drive and then use some software to put the image back on to your assembled raid array.

Yeah, ok so it's firmware/chipset, and it sounds like I'd have to re-install windows for a relatively painless install... does win7 recognize raid without having to do the old XP button smash during init (or build it into the install disk), and if I image the ssd raid volume, would restoring it return the drive to trim state?

I'm starting to think that I'm probably better off just using it as a second drive for installing current games onto........

3.0charlie July 15, 2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sswilson (Post 642436)
I'm starting to think that I'm probably better off just using it as a second drive for installing current games onto........

That's what I would do... a single SSD is fast enough as is.

Perineum July 15, 2012 07:38 PM

Once you set the drives up as RAID in the Intel RAID BIOS they then show up as a regular disk, no need for drivers in Windows 7

Also, when moving your RAID to another Intel based MB, you just turn RAID on the new MB, then plug the drives from the RAID into the new MB, it's instantly recognized and just works.

sswilson July 15, 2012 08:55 PM

Does X58 chipset work like that? (ICH10R chipset)

I've never successfully raided (t'was too much of a hassle under XP when I last started looking at it.... ;) ).

Perineum July 15, 2012 10:44 PM

Yes, all of the ICHxR's do that with Win7. I've moved ICH9R RAIDs to ICH10R just by turning RAID "on" on the new motherboard and simply plugging the drives in to the new MB. Even the port #'s make no difference.

I'm not sure with WinXP, and I'm guessing it would be a no go without floppies and a driver, but I could be wrong.

Here is a handy chart that shows what the ICH10R can do..... note the capacity expansion of a RAID volume..... Intel® Rapid Storage Technology — RAID features by chipset/controller hub

Honestly, using ICHxR RAID with Win7 is just as easy as using AHCI with Win7


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:04 AM.