AMD and TRIM

[FlyingFish]

Either the Nova or an SSDNow would be a good option for you.


The SSDNow has a very strong garbage collection mechanism which keeps things going even without TRIM provided you let your computer idle once in a while for it to take effect.

[Wouterk]

Which generation and type are you referring to? I've read things about SSDnow SSD's with different controllers and performance..

[FlyingFish]

Gen II.


The first gens were all JMicron controllers except for the 40gb which used an Intel controller.


However NCIX doesn't seem to have the 64gb models in stock anymore...

[Soultribunal]

Originally Posted by Wouterk

I´m not sure if I should make a new thread about this but I just registered so pardon me for any mistakes.

On topic:

I'm about to buy an SSD in combination with an AMD system (785G/SB710).

Now I've read through a couple of threads concerning AMD and TRIM but most of it was advice after an SSD was bought, and I'm looking for advice prior to buying it ;)

Hence my question: am I better off buying the Crosair Nova V64 (Indilinx) or the OCZ Vertex 2 60gb 2.5" (SandFore)
(or for that matter any other drive in the same price range around 60GB)

Another and different drive to take into consideration is the Kingston V Gen II series. Very Aggressive ITGC and a very solid drive. I have used a few now on client builds and since release I haven't had one complaint as of yet.

Just a thought,
ST

[Xeven]

I have a Vertex, Vertex 2, Vertex LE and an SSDnow V G2 and the Kingston definitely recovers much much faster than the OCZ drives. The flipside to this is longevity, apparently the Sandforce firmware is tuned to keep the drive alive for as long as possible (it pretty much ignores TRIM too, from what little I've read), hence the very slow recovery rate once saturated (if it ever recovers that is). Heck, the OCZ forums actually recommend a regular secure erase on the Sandforce drives every couple of months (geesuz). The SSDnow on the other pretty much GC's any time it sees anything worth cleaning up. Ultimately, time will tell on which approach is better, but honestly I like the "little" SSDnow's. They're much cheaper yet give good performance. It's all a matter of perception really, benchmarks don't always translate to appreciable differences in real life situations. SSDNow V G2, best bang for the buck

[BootlegUsher]

So just to clarify, if I bought an SSDNow V+ series for my AMD system, it has its own ITGC that happens automatically without me doing anything?

[Soultribunal]

Originally Posted by BootlegUsher

So just to clarify, if I bought an SSDNow V+ series for my AMD system, it has its own ITGC that happens automatically without me doing anything?

Yeah, you just leave the system be and it takes care of the rest. A little idle and its agressive itgc will deal with the rest.

ST

[Wouterk]

Okay thank you all for your advice, much appreciated :D

Originally Posted by Xeven

I have a Vertex, Vertex 2, Vertex LE and a V+ SSDnow G2 and the Kingston definitely recovers much much faster than the OCZ drives. The flipside to this is longevity, apparently the Sandforce firmware is tuned to keep the drive alive for as long as possible (it pretty much ignores TRIM too, from what little I've read), hence the very slow recovery rate once saturated (if it ever recovers that is). Heck, the OCZ forums actually recommend a regular secure erase on the Sandforce drives every couple of months (geesuz). The SSDnow on the other pretty much GC's any time it sees anything worth cleaning up. Ultimately, time will tell on which approach is better, but honestly I like the "little" SSDnow's. They're much cheaper yet give good performance. It's all a matter of perception really, benchmarks don't always translate to appreciable differences in real life situations. SSDNow V+, best bang for the buck

Just to be sure, is this the correct part number of the ssd you are referring to Xeven?

SNVP325-S2/64GB ( Kingston Technology Company - Solid State Drives - SSD<em>Now</em> V+ Series Drive )

Originally Posted by Soultribunal

Yeah, you just leave the system be and it takes care of the rest. A little idle and its agressive itgc will deal with the rest.

ST

So will enabling TRIM do any good? (if it is possible at all with this ssd)

[AkG]

Where it is in doubt if TRIM works 100% on AMD rigs (and hopefully my next 890 amd mobo wont be DOA and I will prove it one way or the other for 890s at least!) assume it doesnt BUT setup the rig to take advantage of TRIM just in case ;) Use AHCI mode, use the default MS AHCI drivers, dont install the AMD driver. BUT let the rig idle from time to time. A couple hours a week should be more than enough.

[Xeven]

Originally Posted by Wouterk

Just to be sure, is this the correct part number of the ssd you are referring to Xeven?

SNVP325-S2/64GB ( Kingston Technology Company - Solid State Drives - SSD<em>Now</em> V+ Series Drive )

Sorry for my idiocy, was referring to the Gen2 V series not the V+ , model SNV425-S2/64GB. Typically if you can find a good deal on it, it goes for < $100.00

Corrected my original post so that I won't spread any more debilitating brain diseases.