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Old October 29, 2009, 11:46 AM
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stay away from seagate imo, bad things lately.
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Old October 29, 2009, 12:35 PM
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K no. I have one of the 7200.12 500gb and it is good. I dunno where you're getting "mixed reviews" but it's fine. Whisper quiet, super cool, and it's as fast as any SATA II 7200rpm drive can be. BrianHanna what are you basing these "bad things" on? That's very general and doesn't help any. If you're referring to the firmware issues on the 7200.11's (I also have 2 500gb 7200.11's that's I've been using for over a year with no issues), that is long over and is not a concern the 7200.12 series. So like I said, either one you choose is fine. EVEN the Seagate.

If you want I can do an HDTune test on the 7200.12 when I'm at home tonight.

Here's someone who already did one: NCIX FORUMS - I can't say enough about the quality... - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2 3....
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Old October 29, 2009, 02:26 PM
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It's just that some of the numbers are good, and others are not so good.
Random access seems kinda poor compared to the WD Blacks.

Some other times seem a bit long too...
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VMware XP boot: 32.33 sec
VMware XP shutdown: 19.96 sec
File Copy: 45.63 sec
 
(couple more results from link above)
headsh0t... if you want to post some benchmark results that would be great.
The results on NCIX are from 2 of the drives in RAID0... I'd like to see just one drive.

Anyone have a WD 500GB Black they could run HDTune on and post results?

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Old October 29, 2009, 10:28 PM
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Ok so I got some HD Tune results for ya. I got results from 500gb 7200.11, 500gb 7200.12, and 1tb WD Black. Test conditions weren't really the same, since the 7200.11 and WD Black are both in my main while the 7200.12 in the HTPC. My main is also running Vista SP1 x64 while the HTPC is running Windows 7 RC x64. Don't know how much of an effect that has on the results but here they are. I also set the Test Speed/Accuracy for these to test to the most accurate.

The 500gb 7200.11

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The 1tb WD Black

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and the 500gb 7200.12

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Seems you were right about Random Access. Although it is really only a few milliseconds and in real time it's negligible. Interesting though to see that the Burst Rate I got was so low, half of what the other drives produced. Odd that the review you linked shows the 7200.12 lead the way in Burst Rate there (over the 7200.11 anyways, since no WD black is tested). I performed the HDtune run on the 7200.12 a few times and I got a higher burst rate, transfer rate but access time was up? This was with the default setting for Test Speed/Accuracy though which is 1 notch above the most accurate setting. Here's a screeny:

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Weird to see it dip down so low in a few spots on the transfer rate, with 11MB/s at the minimum! I also like the -1.0% cpu usage And here's another with a more stable looking transfer test, just for fun:

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So I'd say get the WD Black for the 5 years Warranty vs 3 years Seagate and the slight performance gain if this is for a desktop. If you're using this drive for an HTPC, get the 7200.12 as it will be cooler and quieter, being a single platter drive.
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Old October 29, 2009, 10:36 PM
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Thanks a lot for posting those results.
I'm off to make a purchase.
$15 express shipping means I'll be building a computer VERY soon!
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guys the seagate drive that where all dying where made in chine just after they bought maxtor ( i own 5 7200.11 had them since there release date made in thailand )
if warranty is your motivation then WD but i still buy seagate most of the time . jmo
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Old October 30, 2009, 09:42 AM
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If Seagate has lost trust, it's their own fault really.
I chose the WD because I'm more comfortable with WD... and the warranty is longer.
Seagate may make good drives, but I just couldn't trust our data to them right now.
Too many complaints about DOA drives, or drives dying after a few months to a year of use...
And, of course, the firmware issues of the recent past don't help lean me to their side.
Maybe once they've gone another year without issues I can feel comfortable choosing them.
I'm sure WD has problems from time to time too, but ya gotta go with what you are comfortable with.
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WD black without a doubt
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