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Old December 9, 2008, 04:27 PM
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Note to self, it does interfere with the Lattice of most metals.
Need to do some more research, but it would be wild to find a Non-Metal Heatsink/Radiator combo that would work with this substance.

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hey it's easy.

Block made from pure tungsten with oriented lattice diamond as the 'Face' material.I can make one for yah from scratch with new materials for about 12,000$ CDN

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Mind is full of ideas everytime I see this, lol, its a damn shame I'm not an engineer to some degree.

Good Info on it,
Too bad there are not many non-metals to craft out of that have high thermal ratios.

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hehe

Oriented lattice diamond is the best thermal conductor on earth :

Applied Diamond, Inc.

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Here's a couple other links for yah :

Nanocoolers : to my knowledge these guys made the first commercial cpu cooler using liquid metal ;


techPowerUp! News :: NanoCoolers puts liquid metal in your PC

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Not just the Soviets ; Japan's monju fast breeder reactor :

YouTube - Monju nuclear reactor sodium leak accident footage

That's why liquid sodium is bad....haw....

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Oh I know there are more applications for Liquid metal, was saving space by not stating them all.
Aerospace makes use of lots for the shuttle (but of a different breed).

One day someone will wrap their head around this, and figure it out.
One day lol.
GOod links though. I remember playing with Cesium in class, that stuff explodes when it touches water, and burns when it touches air.
Great stuff!


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Hey If you ever decide to fool around with this stuff , I'll help yah out as much as I can.

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It was probably sodium you saw in class , they don't generally waste cesium on demo's.


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Nahh It was Cesium for sure, not much of it.
Sodium and Lithium only turn black when exposed to the air.
That was many moons ago though.

Heh, I will start figuring this out, I think a non-traditional Rad would work for this.
I wonder if I payed DD or Swift enough they would fabricate something lol!

That or I take traditional blocks and get them coated inside.

I'll hit you up on a PM. One question though, do you know where I'd find the stats for what my PWM output Max is (Watts/Amps) ?

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Well, there is this as well:

Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad

It's not the same as the OP's post, it's a thermal paste, but a pad instead.
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Nahh It was Cesium for sure, not much of it.
Sodium and Lithium only turn black when exposed to the air.
That was many moons ago though.

Heh, I will start figuring this out, I think a non-traditional Rad would work for this.
I wonder if I payed DD or Swift enough they would fabricate something lol!

That or I take traditional blocks and get them coated inside.

I'll hit you up on a PM. One question though, do you know where I'd find the stats for what my PWM output Max is (Watts/Amps) ?

Thanks,
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I only ever got the potassium demo dammit....I feel cheated.

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Here's how I would make a liquid metal loop :

Step 1 : it needs to be designed such that the 'coldface' i.e the piece between the cpu and the liquid metal is a replaceable piece.The 'back' of the block would be a hollow square piece with the hose barbs etc.

Step 2 : the back part , with the hosebarbs etc , is machined from a single piece of either tungsten or molybdenum.I'm not sure which yet , I'm looking into it.

Step 3 : The 'coldface' is a piece of copper that's been coated with the best coating we can find......Gallium oxide , carbon , etc....

Step 4: The rads......same as above , tungsten or moly interface to copper....Handmade once again.

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I'm not sure ST , What PWM hardware we talking about ?

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mlauzon : The coolabratory stuff is essentially a modified Galinstan.Check out thier 'warnings' page ...heheh......it's been adjusted to tolerate copper , but you don't dare get it near aluminum.....



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Old December 10, 2008, 07:02 PM
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The PWM that a Motherboard has. It (One would Imagine at least) has an Output limit in wattage/amperage, I have no idea how to research that though. I don't want to connect this pump and burn out a board by doing research.

Heh, enhanced Chem Class got some sick experiments.

I think a Tempered Acrylic Block with a 2mm overlap of a copper and/or Silver based core would work on the CPU face.
As for the Rad, yeah you can use either of those metals, or instead of a rad, you create a 'holding tank' with fans and restricted turbulent cycles to allow for passive/active hybrid cooling.

Sooooo many thoughts.

Good to see someone else as versed in this as myself, even more so really.
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