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Old December 27, 2007, 12:00 AM
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Why do you want to go SLI or throw a really great gaming card into a Mac? Even with Windows running natively, games on the Mac are not really ... consistent... for lack of a better word. Now if gaming really was good on the Mac then by all means. But at this stage in the game it's just not there :\
What is that "consistent" supposed to mean? Macs are pretty much just regular home PCs but with slightly different hardware in a couple areas and OS X.
I mean, sure Apple's entire linup uses EFI unlike the majority of home PCs(so far..(as far as I know)) but aside from that they are really not all that different anymore in terms of hardware components.(stuff on the PCB, not the PCB design.)
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Old December 27, 2007, 01:30 PM
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imo macs are amazing for video, animation ,music dvd authoring, actually I strongly believe that macs dominate in these areas over PCs
now PCs are limited with the amount of memory and the cores which Macjunky touched on just by saying the specs on friends Macbook Pro and honestly that is what macs are for even compiling lines and lines of code
has been better on a mac (thats going back a few years to when I was still in high school and the last time I wrote any sort of code, so 1995)
I don't even begin to understand fully why macs surpass PC in these areas I just know that its true.

also has Macjunky said macs rarely and I mean rarely crash at all my friend has mac and has had to reformat it twice, well really only once when he upgraded the OS, and the other he just felt that the hdd needed to be wiped clean, but since he started Vista on his PC he has had to reformat and start from scratch a few times in the last couple months just cause the OS would crash and couldn't figure out what was going on (still waiting on an update from him to see what was making it crash) my point in this little rant that PC and Mac are both great systems they each excel in areas where the other lacks. which is why I have a PC and building two new ones as well but am dreaming of a day when I can afford the mac I want cause lets face it you can build two awesome PCs for the price of 1 awesome Mac.

ps sorry for wall of text, still new to posting on forums, not sure how to format posts to make them easier to read
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Old December 27, 2007, 01:39 PM
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What is that "consistent" supposed to mean? Macs are pretty much just regular home PCs but with slightly different hardware in a couple areas and OS X.
I mean, sure Apple's entire linup uses EFI unlike the majority of home PCs(so far..(as far as I know)) but aside from that they are really not all that different anymore in terms of hardware components.(stuff on the PCB, not the PCB design.)

OK go put XP or vista on your Mac... go buy COD 4 , HL2 whatever you want... and play them. Then compare your results with how they play on a PC. Maybe I should have said unpredictable as opposed to consistent.

I'll agree Macs are awesome for Video production. I used to use Premiere and After Effects on PC but Final Cut Studio blows it away. I love how all the tools are integrated and able to edit/preview without spending ages rendering anything. Awesome system if anyone wants to do any semi-pro or pro video production. But as a gaming machine it is no conspiracy or secret. Macs are just not there. Sorry MacJunky that's just the way it is.

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Here's a great quote from Tuncer's Blog at insidemacgames.com

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Let's not mince facts here...the Mac is NOT a great gaming platform. There are a lot of drawbacks to it. It's a rather small market. Apple has one or two people at the company concentrating on Mac games (which is pathetic). The consoles are leaving computer gaming in the dust. There are a lot of factors that make the Mac an unattractive platform for gaming.
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OK go put XP or vista on your Mac... go buy COD 4 , HL2 whatever you want... and play them. Then compare your results with how they play on a PC. Maybe I should have said unpredictable as opposed to consistent.
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Here's a great quote from Tuncer's Blog at insidemacgames.com
Unless I am mistaken he was talking about OS X running on a Mac, not windows.
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Old December 27, 2007, 10:42 PM
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I would like to see how a mac can do running windows and how it handles gaming, can't find much on it either tried to talk my friend into it but he is too busy with work right now
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My iMac plays games ... well, not well, but half-decent in Windows Vista via Bootcamp (although, after playing for a while, I will start to get artifacts because the GPU cooling in the iMac is inadequate ... Had the GPU replaced twice since I got it in August). The equivalent games in OS X run like crap, most likely due to the fact that they're shitty port jobs ...

It runs Windows Vista Ultimate x86 great ... Definitely can't complain ...
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imo macs are amazing for video, animation ,music dvd authoring, actually I strongly believe that macs dominate in these areas over PCs
now PCs are limited with the amount of memory and the cores which Macjunky touched on just by saying the specs on friends Macbook Pro and honestly that is what macs are for even compiling lines and lines of code
has been better on a mac (thats going back a few years to when I was still in high school and the last time I wrote any sort of code, so 1995)
I don't even begin to understand fully why macs surpass PC in these areas I just know that its true.

also has Macjunky said macs rarely and I mean rarely crash at all my friend has mac and has had to reformat it twice, well really only once when he upgraded the OS, and the other he just felt that the hdd needed to be wiped clean, but since he started Vista on his PC he has had to reformat and start from scratch a few times in the last couple months just cause the OS would crash and couldn't figure out what was going on (still waiting on an update from him to see what was making it crash) my point in this little rant that PC and Mac are both great systems they each excel in areas where the other lacks. which is why I have a PC and building two new ones as well but am dreaming of a day when I can afford the mac I want cause lets face it you can build two awesome PCs for the price of 1 awesome Mac.

ps sorry for wall of text, still new to posting on forums, not sure how to format posts to make them easier to read
Video editing is much more widely done on the PC than Macs, it's just Apple's marketing that makes it seem the other way. Same goes for DVD authoring, image editing and all that stuff.

So, how does an 8 core Mac with 24GB of RAM have more cores and more memory than a monster computer with 32 cores and 64GB of RAM?

As for compiling code, my laptop was faster than a similar Macbook at compiling code, but that may be Visual Studio versus whatever the Macbook was using.

As for crashing, the only times XP has crashed on me in the last seven years of using it were either related to failing hardware (something that would happen with a Mac just as easily) or when I did something to cause it (such as push an overclock too far or accidentally write some bad OpenGL and make ATI's drivers lock up hard).
Oh, and my PC based server had around a thousand days of uptime before I had a UPS failure cause it to lose power.
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