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Old May 30, 2009, 05:41 PM
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Actually, if you ask your local Canada Computers store they will bring one in from another store if they don't have one in stock, usually takes 2-3 biz days ;)
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Old May 30, 2009, 06:13 PM
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good thing there only charging $20 more for a D0 compared to the other Cx something

heres the link for ya

Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping Quad Core Processor LGA1366 2.66GHZ Bloomfield 8MB LGA1366 -SLBEJ- - DirectCanada
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Old May 31, 2009, 10:33 AM
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I just did some more research on i5, which also proves that i7 isn't going ANYWHERE.

i5 = DMI(2GB/s based off PCIe 4x) and 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes(16GB/s)
i7 = QPI(25GB/s new technology), has 2 QPI links built in, but *current* i7 only use one.

While the i5 could *possibly* use a PCIe splitter such as the NF200 or PLX chips, but not only it would be an added cost for MB makers, it will introduce unwanted latency issues, as well as heating(NF200 is a HOT chip) and bottlenecking. Most i5 motherboards you'll see, will most likely split 16 lanes into 2 8x electrical, x16 physical connectors for SLi/Crossfire ability, and use the DMI bottlenecked(2GB/s) P55 PCH(southbridge) for any additional ports(8 lanes of PCIe 2.0). I do see the higher end i5 board using PLX like lane splitters

The i7 on the other hand will ALSO be getting use of the new P55 PCH(which is connected via DMI{2GB/s} to the X58 chip). Whether or not the new i7 PCH will ALSO be called "P55" or not is to be seen, but it will replace the currently used ICH10. On top of that, the Gulftown 6 core CPU is scheduled for release on the LGA1366 i7 and Xeon platform.

Due to the way the i7 and i5 are designed, PCIe 3.0(double the speed of PCIe 2.0) will come to i7 first, with a simple chipset/MB upgrade. To get it in the i5 would require you to, buy a new CPU, and chances are, a whole new motherboard/chipset as well.

For dual(or more) GPU setup's, i7 will still reign supreme. For everything else, outside of the high-end desktop and workstation market, the i5 will be where the games at. Frankly, if Intel drops the i5's price a little bit, I can see the socket split(LGA1366/1156) working out VERY well.

I still think they should of stuck with one socket BUT the more and more I do research and read into it, the more and more I realise, that it could work out well for Intel and consumers alike.
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Glad to hear that. I just purchase a i7 920 D0 this afternoon, locally of course.
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New news on this front:

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COMPUTEX 2009: Despite telling us face to face yesterday that its Core i7 920 and 950 CPU's will be around for a little while yet, bit-tech has exclusively seen roadmaps and been given multiple confirmations that every-single-one of the X58 motherboard manufacturers is expecting: 920, 940, 950 and 965 will be end-of-life by early next year.

Only the 975 Extreme Edition and the future 6-core LGA1366 CPUs will exist on this socket, with Lynnfield engulfing the entire middle field (we're hesitant to use the word "mainstream").

LGA1366 and X58 motherboards will be thinned out in the next refresh in Q3/4 with the launch of Lynnfield on Sept. 1st, although no one had an exact date for the phasing out of these CPU products.

Intel says one thing then does another?

bit-tech.net | Confirmed: Core i7 920, 940, 950 to go "soon"


Also, aparantly the some Intel guy told Bit-Tech no cpu would be leaving any time soon, and that Lynnefield WON'T be called "i5".


Lots of mixed messages coming from Intel right now, I heard Intel SCREAM a death-knoll at i7.
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Old June 5, 2009, 10:29 AM
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Meh. I don't care.

I'll enjoy it while I have it and get something else when the time comes.

I don't see what the big deal is about this...
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NO big deal...other than 6-core cpus!!! This is GOOD news for ?donnington? ...maybe quads w/HT will exist on i5 alone, and i7 will make the migration to a 6-core platform. Would make sense for the delay on "i5", if this was teh case...ALOT of sense...delay the lower-grade platform so the upper grade isn't overshadowed when the new stuff comes out...

This isn't BAD news....quite the opposite, IMHO. It jsut depends on how you want to spin it...and I don't see Intel clamoring to deal with yeild issues just yet...


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Old June 5, 2009, 10:35 AM
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NO big deal...other than 6-core cpus!!! This is GOOD news for ?donnington? ...maybe quads w/HT will exist on i5 alone, and i7 will make the migration to a 6-core platform. Would make sense for the delay on "i5", if this was teh case...ALOT of sense...delay the lower-grade platform so the upper grade isn't overshadowed when the new stuff comes out...


The six-core CPUs should be fun

I bet they'll put out a ton of PPD!

But I see an outcry in some circles and in other circles I see guys taking shots at i7 owners for buying i7 and saying "see, I told you you should have waited" and other such nonsense. That's the part I don't get.
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<snip> Lots of mixed messages coming from Intel right now, I heard Intel SCREAM a death-knoll at i7.
Just because Intel discontinues a CPU(which btw the 940 and 965 have already been discontinued) doesn't mean they won't continue to be available. So Intel's not giving any mixed messages by showing roadmaps showing them nixing the 920+950 late 2009, and saying that they will be *available* for a long while longer.

Intel ships, sells, and take orders for items for up to a year after the nix them.

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Intelís customers have to place the final orders for the Core i7-965 Extreme Edition central processing units by the 4th of September, 2009. Intel will ship its last boxed Core i7-965 Extreme Edition on the 4th of December and the last tray flavours of the chip on the 7th of May, 2010.
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Last orders cannot be canceled after July 10, 2009 for both tray and boxed varieties. And last orders will be received September 4, 2009. Products will be shipped in box form until December 4, 2009, and in tray form through November 5, 2010.
i7 is not going to die, its just becoming a different(6 core anyone) platform. Everyone needs to take a chill pill over this i7 business, i7 will still have its place when the dust settles.
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i7 is not going to die, its just becoming a different(6 core anyone) platform.

See my last post!


Intel hasn't been clear with info, so I spun the way they portray it. I eman really, they could just openly state than they are moving to a 6-core platform for i7...that would be better marketing than just the news of stopping sales!



BTW, I'm not the one that said people should wait...i think i7 is the best performer on the market right now, so if that's what you want...the best...RIGHT NOW...you have no other choice. The majority of my remarks have been directed at the plans/info of the i7 platform...not it's functionality!


Also of note is that the cpus you listed in your quotes are LOW-VOLUME units. The outcry is due to the HIGH-VOLUME cpus being discontinued...now we can safely say, to be reaplced by 6-core cpus.

I wonder if the 6-core cpus have HT as well.....? Crunching madness!!
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