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moocow June 7, 2012 12:10 PM

HDD price to remain high until 2014
 
Another article to clear up why the price haven't drop down as fast as it went up.

Hard drive prices to remain above pre-flood levels until 2014 - Components - News - HEXUS.net

Adzsask June 7, 2012 12:12 PM

28% jump, where? I see 80-110% jumps in pricing here in Canada.

Perineum June 7, 2012 12:45 PM

I think it's price fixing between the 2 major players.

SugarJ June 7, 2012 12:52 PM

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28% jump, where? I see 80-110% jumps in pricing here in Canada.
The 28% rise is the average selling price per unit sold. This does not take into account that people are buying smaller drives because the price went up so much (i.e buying a 1TB instead of a 2TB).

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I think it's price fixing between the 2 major players.
Take a look at WD and Seagate's reported earnings for the last quarter. Their profit margins are up immensely. Damn straight they are keeping the prices artificially high.

trayton June 7, 2012 01:40 PM

Funny how we are suppose to be protected from this yet every company out there does it but gas companies seem to be the biggest culprits but also a good money maker for our governments.

ipaine June 7, 2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by trayton (Post 632907)
Funny how we are suppose to be protected from this yet every company out there does it but gas companies seem to be the biggest culprits but also a good money maker for our governments.

Yup damn gas companies. Nice how on the news they are talking about how the price of oil is slipping and not as high as it was and was expected to be, yet we are paying more at the pumps then we ever have. All the while the companies post record profits every quarter.

Now back on topic, a perfect example of where prices were and where they are now is a drive that I had purchased just shortly before the floods. I got a WD 3TB green and I paid $129.99 for it. Now from the same store for the same drive it is listed at $169.99 and that is $10 off. So really sticker price we are looking at a $50 increase, which works out to about a 38% increase.

neojjjk June 7, 2012 03:07 PM

until 2014 ? crap ..these people want our money .,by making us fools .

Galcobar June 7, 2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ipaine (Post 632922)
Yup damn gas companies. Nice how on the news they are talking about how the price of oil is slipping and not as high as it was and was expected to be, yet we are paying more at the pumps then we ever have. All the while the companies post record profits every quarter.

Now back on topic, a perfect example of where prices were and where they are now is a drive that I had purchased just shortly before the floods. I got a WD 3TB green and I paid $129.99 for it. Now from the same store for the same drive it is listed at $169.99 and that is $10 off. So really sticker price we are looking at a $50 increase, which works out to about a 38% increase.

The gas issue is not a problem with oil, which is more reasonably priced now that speculators are dropping out -- the problem is refinery capacity. As in, there isn't any, at least not where we need it to be. Oil companies have been closing refineries, or can't get the right type of oil to the right type of refinery (Alberta bitumen can't be processed by refineries set up for Texas sweet crude). It also doesn't help that the primary refinery for the West Coast, the Cherry Point refinery, is still largely offline due to a fire a few months ago.

I find myself wondering about profits versus profit margins on the hard drive side. Profit margins will of course go up when supply suffers a dramatic shock because demand doesn't go down. And even more obviously, prices will decline more slowly than they spiked because it takes a lot more time to rebuild a factory network than it does to flood them.

The corporation will favour increased profits over increased profit margins -- if volume is better for business they'll go for it.

As for protection, well, a) right-wing ideologies say government should not intervene in markets, and ignore the fact that ideology is based upon a non-existent ideal market and b) companies facing the same conditions will react the same way without need for collusion. And really, if one had the opportunity to increase their profits by selling more units at a lower price (undercutting the competition) they would -- collusion doesn't last because the incentive to cheat is great.

b1lk1 June 7, 2012 03:42 PM

Don't let the retailers off here too. They are also adding in their markups which are making them good profits as well. With any luck we can get Linus to chime in here and try once again to explain how it is fair for retailers to make so much off this stuff as well. The consumer is getting raped by all parties in this deal.....

michaelubc June 7, 2012 11:02 PM

I guess I won't be buying a hard drive anytime soon :(


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