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Old November 8, 2009, 02:15 PM
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Write MSI and ask them, maybe they'll tell you?
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Old November 8, 2009, 05:37 PM
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MSI is a T1 manufacturer? And DFI > MSI
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Old November 8, 2009, 05:47 PM
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MSI is a T1 manufacturer? And DFI > MSI
There's no question that MSI is a T1 manufacturer and they have been for as long as that designation has existed.

You can have your own opinion about DFI boards versus MSI boards, but they are not a T1 and they never have been. This document is a little bit on the old side, but it gives you a better idea of how these designations are assigned. It has NOTHING to do with customer opinion of the boards.

http://www.techinsight.com.tw/reports/TII_0002.pdf

Edit: here's a more current reference: Gigabyte Technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According the Wikipedia the current T1s are ASUS, GIGABYTE, MSI, and ECS
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well i rather have an average dfi board than the best msi can offer
if i would run all stock then it wouldnt matter n just get somethin cheap lol
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Old November 8, 2009, 08:36 PM
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I think a lot of generalization goes on about manufacturers... I've had boards from all of the T1s and most of the T2s that are good, and I've had boards from those companies that are just plain bad (except Gigabyte).

Everyone loves to talk about the NF4 Ultra D, or the P4P800-E Deluxe, but no one wants to talk about that nForce 3 S939 abortion from DFI (yeah I actually bought one) or the ASUS Striker II Extreme. This is how fanboyism gets started. You have to let go of that and evaluate the vendor on a product by product basis.
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you can build the best board but if you cant back it up with a good bios its gonna suk
my biggest issue with msi is power revulation on boards lets not forget bios support
already we see they far back in p55 bios
dfi always late in bringing a board to market but damn good bios
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Old November 9, 2009, 09:02 AM
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Hate to say this, but I haven't had the hankering to run a DFI board for years now. I wasn't impressed with their X38 / X48 stuff AT ALL.

However, MSI really impressed me with their latest AM3 and P55 boards.

To each their own I guess.
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Hate to say this, but I haven't had the hankering to run a DFI board for years now. I wasn't impressed with their X38 / X48 stuff AT ALL.

However, MSI really impressed me with their latest AM3 and P55 boards.

To each their own I guess.
i wasnt impressed with dfi x38 neither only cause the ut p35 was soo good
but it did run 4 sticks 1200mhz+ 500fsb stable
did you try the msi x48
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I found DFI's P35 and P45 to be great. Still running a P35 Dark in my media PC. Never owned the x38/x48
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I found DFI's P35 and P45 to be great. Still running a P35 Dark in my media PC. Never owned the x38/x48

the x38-x48 was limited to 550fsb
i got my p35 to 581fsb p45 to 600fsb

my evga ftw only blk210 stable so far
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