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Old September 27, 2008, 09:17 AM
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Hello I just bought some Buffalo Firestix FSX800D2B-K4G 4GB 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory kit from NCIX and im dissapointed that It wont run at stock settings. 4-4-4-12 T2 @800 as per the sticker on it at any voltage I have a asus p5k-E and e7200 with vista. It does run fine with 5-5-5-18 T2 @800 with volts on auto. Should I keep it or return it . What kind of performance lose with the differance in timings cause.

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Old September 27, 2008, 09:24 AM
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Did you contact Buffalo via the 1-800 tech support #? You'll probably have to wait until after the weekend, but they actually answer it... :)

I had similar issues with a 2X1 set (two sets actually) of 1066 mem and eventually just gave up and ran them sub 1000 with tighter timings. If your memory won't run @ 800 with the stated timings I'd definately consider returning them.
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Hello I just bought some Buffalo Firestix FSX800D2B-K4G 4GB 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory kit from NCIX and im dissapointed that It wont run at stock settings. 4-4-4-12 T2 as per the sticker on it at any voltage I have a asus p5k-E and e7200 with vista. It does run fine with 5-5-5-18 T2 with volts on auto. Should I keep it or return it . What kind of performance lose with the differance in timings cause.

Thanks Ken
If you had any intentions of overclocking, then definitely send it back. If it was true 6400 4-4-4-12...it likely would have ran 1000-1066@5-5-5-15, but since its already at 5-5-5-18@800...i doubt there's much headroom at all. As far as how much performance difference you'll notice...you probably won't even notice it. There are some people(me included)that are very "in-tune" with their machines, and can notice small differences either way...but for most..it really won't matter. GL
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Saw your post @ ncix
Try these

FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: Use Rated Speed
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12

*Use Highest Numbers First for Below*
Write Recovery Time: 6(4-6)
REF Cycle Time: 60(50-60)
Write to Read Delay: 11(9-11)
RAS# To RAS# Delay: 4(3-4)
Read to Pre Time : 6(4-6)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Transation Booster: Disabled(Enabled*)
Relax Level: 1(0-1) (0 being for more perf 1 being for more stability) (*Boost Level when TB enabled, 0 being relaxed, 1-2 being for more perf) . This setting will result in most perf gains normally, is affected by fsb, memory strap and memory speed being used

DDR2 Voltage : 1.95-2.05v (might be overvolting, best to make 2.1v max you try, which is what Dr.Memory said as rated.

Hope this gets you up and running, it should.
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+1 to Mushkin tech support for offering timings for Buffalo mem..... :)
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+1 to Mushkin tech support for offering timings for Buffalo mem..... :)
HA! Send em back, buy some mushkins :P
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Saw your post @ ncix
Try these

FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: Use Rated Speed
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12

*Use Highest Numbers First for Below*
Write Recovery Time: 6(4-6)
REF Cycle Time: 60(50-60)
Write to Read Delay: 11(9-11)
RAS# To RAS# Delay: 4(3-4)
Read to Pre Time : 6(4-6)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Transation Booster: Disabled(Enabled*)
Relax Level: 1(0-1) (0 being for more perf 1 being for more stability) (*Boost Level when TB enabled, 0 being relaxed, 1-2 being for more perf) . This setting will result in most perf gains normally, is affected by fsb, memory strap and memory speed being used

DDR2 Voltage : 1.95-2.05v (might be overvolting, best to make 2.1v max you try, which is what Dr.Memory said as rated.

Hope this gets you up and running, it should.

Wow thanks but still no go back to auto now your going to hate me.
I bought these to replace my mushkin 2gb HP2-8500 996578 I should have bought Mushkin but after reading several reviews I decided to try the Firestikx not only do they dont work they feel not as heavy as the Muskin and not as hight quality-cheap looking heat spreaders. I think Im going back to Mushkin what kind should I buy more HP2-8500 for a total of 4X1gb or better off for almost the same price new 4x2gb not sure which to buy thou.
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Old September 27, 2008, 10:12 AM
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With the sale on the HP2-6400 2x2GB at ncix, those are going to be a great choice for 2x2GB.
I would grab those personally, they are no slow ram, they are tested well beyond rated and warrantied upto 2.1v
This allows for normal overclocks of 1000-1066Mhz 2.0-2.1v 5-5-5-(12-15), worst I've seen was 950Mhz, but that was a p965 chipset and that was expect, when not using auto.

Your board should have no issues running them 1000Mhz+
The HP2-6400 2x2GB will most often run 800Mhz 4-4-4-12 also.
Mushkin HP PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 CL5-4-4-12

For a nice heavier heatsink, you might want to look into our ascent line, even with 2.25v (2.35v actual on my board), I couldn't make them warmer then air temps, with nothing but normal case cooling. Same for 2.35(2.45 actual on my board) using a 120MM fan over them.
Mushkin Ascent PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12

No problem about wanting to try another ram, I went though many different ram's before sticking with mushkin for my last ** builds. My first kit was the xp-4000 2-2-2-5 2x512MB 3.5-3.7v from way back, was soo fast.

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Old September 27, 2008, 10:28 AM
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Mushkin XP PC2-8000 Redline 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
NCIX.com - Buy Mushkin XP PC2-8000 Redline 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - 996593 In Canada.

If I decided to do some overclocking in the future would I benifit from the above.
instead of the Hp2-6400 -I or go with the Ascent.
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Old September 27, 2008, 10:32 AM
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The redlines is a great kit too, but for a few $ more I would get the ascents for the new heat spreaders.

My kit of the redlines reached 1066Mhz 1.88v bios 1080Mhz 1.98v bios, 5-5-5-15 easily.

My ascent 8500's though, have reached 1151Mhz and 1131Mhz 5-5-5-15 2.0v bios, respectively for my 2 kits of those.
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